BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

[Pier Luigi Cingolani]

This has never really worked for me, done plenty of runs (>50)
I have run 12k last week for my long run, so I’d assume it should be able to give a prediction for at least 5 and 10k, and extrapolate HM and M times from them.

[Sebastian Wagner 0]

i never got a value for lactate threshold and run prediction. after many runs, easy , moderate, long, short, fast. no values. i think in the next update they will address the topic

[gilou]

question peut être très bête, pour les algorithmes qui gèrent la définition du seuil lactique, faut il activer le suivi de sommeil ? Je sais, cela a première vue n’a rien a voir mais des fois certaines valeurs sont issues de combinaisons de fonctions…

[Arnaud Lclr]

@gilou the vast majority of people here will tell you that sleep tracking is activated but that it doesn’t work any better 🫣

[Sebastian Wagner 0]

in the change log from the newest update they wrote that the running estimate and lactate threshold problems were solved.
i installed the newest software on my race. and i still got no values for both. did more then 80 runs (long, short, fast, slow) before the update and 3 after the update. What are your experiences after the update? do you have any new tipps?
@pavel-samokha do you have any insights or ideas?

[landlord4714]

@Sebastian-Wagner-0

Same new update installed and been on 3 runs since, longest being over an hour. Still no lactate zones.

[pavel.samokha]

@Sebastian-Wagner-0 as far as I know it should work, but I’m not the best person to ask. Not an official response but I would keep an eye on it for the next few days to be sure

[fleblanc01]

@Sebastian-Wagner-0 same here. Did my 3 runs since the update and I run 5-6 times per week…

[leafs93]

@fleblanc01 updated to new firmware, ran once and all my estimates and lactate threshold appeared… and I must say the estimates are really spot on! Kudos to suunto to finally fix it

[gilou]

still no estimate or lactic threshold despite the update and several activities. Another silly question: is it compulsory to enter the feeling? something that wasn’t activated until now.

[pavel.samokha]

if you don’t get estimates a couple tips I have you can try:

• Be sure your runs have at least 10 min of running in HR Zone 2 or above and good GNSS(GPS) track (normally it is, but just in case).
  • We have a nice “HR Zones Duration” S+ app to measure time in HR zones
• Do 3 runs meeting criteria above
• If you did mentioned above and it didn’t work and you use heartrate belt - try with wrist heart rate

If you still don’t get estimates - send logs and let us know. Many issues with estimates were fixed but it could be more which affects some people

[Sebastian Wagner 0]

@pavel-samokha

Thx for the Infos.
Did the 3 Runs with more then 10min Zone 2 , still no values.
Do the 10min or more Zone 2 have to be 10 min continious Zone 2 in a run or total in the run? And do i have to run the 3 Runs on consecutive days?

And why should it make a differente between optical hr from Watch and hr belt for getting values? And then the Values Maybe wrong because of Bad readings from the optical hr in cold weather.

And i am a Little Bit confused, because the Suunto Support Told ne in january that i have to run Zone 3 for 10min plus in 3 Runs.

Which Logs should i send ?

[pavel.samokha]

@Sebastian-Wagner-0 https://www.suunto.com/Support/faq-articles/suunto-app/how-to-send-diagnostic-logs-on-suunto-app-for-ios/ (on Android open Profile -> Settins -> Scroll to bottom)

[Sebastian Wagner 0]

@pavel-samokha

Watch is connected, but i can Not find the Option to send Logs.

[freeheeler]

@Sebastian-Wagner-0
settings -> about app
the logs function has been moved to keep us agile and dynamic

[Sebastian Wagner 0]

@freeheeler
Thx

I Hope Suunto can See something in my data, why i can Not get Running estimate and Lactate threshold values.

[landlord4714]

Sent logs as well for troubleshooting.

[Christoph_W]

For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

[efbill]

@Christoph_W said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

Unfortunately the same thing happens to me. I also tried everything I read on the forum but nothing helped.

[yohan]

It seems it’s only working with Watch Heartrate Sensor, I’ll try before the end of this month, but I got a marathon next sunday, so I’ll keep my Verity Sense until I cross this finish line.