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    BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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      fleblanc01 @Sebastian Wagner 0
      last edited by

      @Sebastian-Wagner-0 same here. Did my 3 runs since the update and I run 5-6 times per week…

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      • leafs93L Offline
        leafs93 Bronze Member @fleblanc01
        last edited by

        @fleblanc01 updated to new firmware, ran once and all my estimates and lactate threshold appeared… and I must say the estimates are really spot on! Kudos to suunto to finally fix it

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        • gilouG Offline
          gilou
          last edited by

          still no estimate or lactic threshold despite the update and several activities. Another silly question: is it compulsory to enter the feeling? something that wasn’t activated until now.

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          • pavel.samokhaP Offline
            pavel.samokha
            last edited by pavel.samokha

            if you don’t get estimates a couple tips I have you can try:

            • Be sure your runs have at least 10 min of running in HR Zone 2 or above and good GNSS(GPS) track (normally it is, but just in case).
              • We have a nice “HR Zones Duration” S+ app to measure time in HR zones
            • Do 3 runs meeting criteria above
            • If you did mentioned above and it didn’t work and you use heartrate belt - try with wrist heart rate

            If you still don’t get estimates - send logs and let us know. Many issues with estimates were fixed but it could be more which affects some people

            Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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              Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
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              @pavel-samokha

              Thx for the Infos.
              Did the 3 Runs with more then 10min Zone 2 , still no values.
              Do the 10min or more Zone 2 have to be 10 min continious Zone 2 in a run or total in the run? And do i have to run the 3 Runs on consecutive days?

              And why should it make a differente between optical hr from Watch and hr belt for getting values? And then the Values Maybe wrong because of Bad readings from the optical hr in cold weather.

              And i am a Little Bit confused, because the Suunto Support Told ne in january that i have to run Zone 3 for 10min plus in 3 Runs.

              Which Logs should i send ?

              t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                pavel.samokha @Sebastian Wagner 0
                last edited by

                @Sebastian-Wagner-0 https://www.suunto.com/Support/faq-articles/suunto-app/how-to-send-diagnostic-logs-on-suunto-app-for-ios/ (on Android open Profile -> Settins -> Scroll to bottom)

                Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                  Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
                  last edited by

                  @pavel-samokha

                  Watch is connected, but i can Not find the Option to send Logs.

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                  t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                    freeheeler @Sebastian Wagner 0
                    last edited by

                    @Sebastian-Wagner-0
                    settings -> about app
                    the logs function has been moved to keep us agile and dynamic 😉

                    living sideways

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                      Sebastian Wagner 0 @freeheeler
                      last edited by

                      @freeheeler
                      Thx 👍

                      I Hope Suunto can See something in my data, why i can Not get Running estimate and Lactate threshold values.

                      t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                        landlord4714 @Sebastian Wagner 0
                        last edited by

                        Sent logs as well for troubleshooting.

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                          Christoph_W
                          last edited by

                          For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

                          I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

                          On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

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                            efbill @Christoph_W
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                            @Christoph_W said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                            For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

                            I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

                            On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

                            Unfortunately the same thing happens to me. I also tried everything I read on the forum but nothing helped.

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                              yohan
                              last edited by

                              It seems it’s only working with Watch Heartrate Sensor, I’ll try before the end of this month, but I got a marathon next sunday, so I’ll keep my Verity Sense until I cross this finish line.

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                              • Marius Jacobsen EggerudM Offline
                                Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @yohan
                                last edited by

                                @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

                                Suunto Ambit 3
                                Suunto Spartan Ultra
                                Suunto Race Ti

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                                  gilou @pavel.samokha
                                  last edited by gilou

                                  @pavel-samokha est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

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                                    cosme.costa @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                                    last edited by cosme.costa

                                    @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                    @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

                                    From what I have read in the Spanish Forum, the SR needs to be this way because the algorithm used is from a external company and once you have the first values then you can use the externar HR monitor to keep them. Its said that with next update you will be able to get the values with an external monitor.

                                    SV uses Suunto’s algorithm and gives the values with external monitors.

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                                      pavel.samokha @gilou
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                                      @gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                      est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

                                      S+ app is not required

                                      Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                        wmichi @cosme.costa
                                        last edited by

                                        @cosme-costa Thanks for this info! Wow, that’s bad. There are quite a few people who have problems with accurate WHR. For me it’s unusable during exercise (I am simply not compatible with this technology), so that this algorithm would be a random number generator. I hope Suunto can fix this soon.

                                        There should really be an information about this on the website: “You only get LTHR and race prediction times if WHR is used”. In my country there is something called consumer rights. As far as I know, if a product doesn’t work as advertised, consumers can request their money back (Suunto had already months to fix this), even after months of use. So maybe it would be a good idea to add this info for legal reasons?

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                                          MiniForklift Platinum Member @wmichi
                                          last edited by MiniForklift

                                          Sorry, tried to delete my post as it’s not relevant but I don’t have permission to do so. As you were…

                                          SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                            A Former User @wmichi
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                                            @wmichi With all due respect, but if this is true it is quite puzzling that no one here has said it!

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