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BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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    Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
    last edited by 30 Mar 2024, 05:52

    @pavel-samokha

    Watch is connected, but i can Not find the Option to send Logs.

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    t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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      freeheeler @Sebastian Wagner 0
      last edited by 30 Mar 2024, 06:24

      @Sebastian-Wagner-0
      settings -> about app
      the logs function has been moved to keep us agile and dynamic 😉

      living sideways

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        Sebastian Wagner 0 @freeheeler
        last edited by 30 Mar 2024, 09:31

        @freeheeler
        Thx 👍

        I Hope Suunto can See something in my data, why i can Not get Running estimate and Lactate threshold values.

        t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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          landlord4714 @Sebastian Wagner 0
          last edited by 30 Mar 2024, 16:45

          Sent logs as well for troubleshooting.

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            Christoph_W
            last edited by 1 Apr 2024, 08:46

            For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

            I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

            On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

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              efbill @Christoph_W
              last edited by 1 Apr 2024, 17:25

              @Christoph_W said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

              For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

              I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

              On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

              Unfortunately the same thing happens to me. I also tried everything I read on the forum but nothing helped.

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                yohan
                last edited by 2 Apr 2024, 06:47

                It seems it’s only working with Watch Heartrate Sensor, I’ll try before the end of this month, but I got a marathon next sunday, so I’ll keep my Verity Sense until I cross this finish line.

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                  Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @yohan
                  last edited by 2 Apr 2024, 08:52

                  @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

                  Suunto Ambit 3
                  Suunto Spartan Ultra
                  Suunto Race Ti

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                    gilou @pavel.samokha
                    last edited by gilou 4 Feb 2024, 10:02 2 Apr 2024, 09:59

                    @pavel-samokha est-il conseillĂ© de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activitĂ©s depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complĂ©ment S+

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                      cosme.costa @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
                      last edited by cosme.costa 4 Feb 2024, 13:10 2 Apr 2024, 12:19

                      @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                      @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

                      From what I have read in the Spanish Forum, the SR needs to be this way because the algorithm used is from a external company and once you have the first values then you can use the externar HR monitor to keep them. Its said that with next update you will be able to get the values with an external monitor.

                      SV uses Suunto’s algorithm and gives the values with external monitors.

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                        pavel.samokha @gilou
                        last edited by 2 Apr 2024, 13:44

                        @gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                        est-il conseillĂ© de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activitĂ©s depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complĂ©ment S+

                        S+ app is not required

                        Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                          wmichi @cosme.costa
                          last edited by 2 Apr 2024, 20:59

                          @cosme-costa Thanks for this info! Wow, that’s bad. There are quite a few people who have problems with accurate WHR. For me it’s unusable during exercise (I am simply not compatible with this technology), so that this algorithm would be a random number generator. I hope Suunto can fix this soon.

                          There should really be an information about this on the website: “You only get LTHR and race prediction times if WHR is used”. In my country there is something called consumer rights. As far as I know, if a product doesn’t work as advertised, consumers can request their money back (Suunto had already months to fix this), even after months of use. So maybe it would be a good idea to add this info for legal reasons?

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                            MiniForklift Platinum Member @wmichi
                            last edited by MiniForklift 4 Feb 2024, 21:08 2 Apr 2024, 21:06

                            Sorry, tried to delete my post as it’s not relevant but I don’t have permission to do so. As you were


                            SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                              A Former User @wmichi
                              last edited by 3 Apr 2024, 06:23

                              @wmichi With all due respect, but if this is true it is quite puzzling that no one here has said it!

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                                pavel.samokha
                                last edited by 3 Apr 2024, 07:54

                                The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

                                Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                  MiniForklift Platinum Member @pavel.samokha
                                  last edited by 3 Apr 2024, 19:48

                                  @pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                  The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

                                  I know you’re referring to the Race and I have the Vertical, but FWIW I can see the race predictions on my watch and I don’t use HR of any sort

                                  SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                                    pavel.samokha @MiniForklift
                                    last edited by 3 Apr 2024, 20:32

                                    @MiniForklift yes, it’s related only to Suunto Race

                                    Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                      gilou @pavel.samokha
                                      last edited by gilou 4 Apr 2024, 06:47 4 Apr 2024, 06:46

                                      @pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                      @gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                      est-il conseillĂ© de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activitĂ©s depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complĂ©ment S+

                                      S+ app is not required

                                      @pavel-samokha merci pour tes conseils. j’ai enfin rĂ©ussi a avoir mes donnĂ©es de course ainsi que le seuil lactique en ajoutant l’application S+ "HR zones Duration " Alors mĂȘme si cet ajout n’est pas requis pour avoir ces valeurs, cela a du bien aider. J’avais deja une dizaine d’activitĂ©s post mise a jour avant cette derniĂšre. J’espĂšre que cela pourra aider ceux qui Ă©taient dans le mĂȘme cas que moi.

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                                        Mi_chael Bronze Member
                                        last edited by 6 Apr 2024, 08:16

                                        After 3 or 4 run after the update. My race show the run prediction and the lactate threshold.

                                        I run 10 minutes or more on z2 and 10 minutes or more on z3.

                                        And i use a Polar H10.

                                        Thanks Suunto !

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                                          Geoffwilli
                                          last edited by 1 May 2024, 14:14

                                          I’ve had my race since it launched and still no run prediction or threshold data. Run 5 times a week around 100k all sorts of activities but have never had anything in these fields.

                                          Am I doing something wrong!?

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