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BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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    yohan
    last edited by 2 Apr 2024, 06:47

    It seems it’s only working with Watch Heartrate Sensor, I’ll try before the end of this month, but I got a marathon next sunday, so I’ll keep my Verity Sense until I cross this finish line.

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      Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @yohan
      last edited by 2 Apr 2024, 08:52

      @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

      Suunto Ambit 3
      Suunto Spartan Ultra
      Suunto Race Ti

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        gilou @pavel.samokha
        last edited by gilou 4 Feb 2024, 10:02 2 Apr 2024, 09:59

        @pavel-samokha est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

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          cosme.costa @Marius Jacobsen Eggerud
          last edited by cosme.costa 4 Feb 2024, 13:10 2 Apr 2024, 12:19

          @Marius-Jacobsen-Eggerud said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

          @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

          From what I have read in the Spanish Forum, the SR needs to be this way because the algorithm used is from a external company and once you have the first values then you can use the externar HR monitor to keep them. Its said that with next update you will be able to get the values with an external monitor.

          SV uses Suunto’s algorithm and gives the values with external monitors.

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            pavel.samokha @gilou
            last edited by 2 Apr 2024, 13:44

            @gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

            est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

            S+ app is not required

            Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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              wmichi @cosme.costa
              last edited by 2 Apr 2024, 20:59

              @cosme-costa Thanks for this info! Wow, that’s bad. There are quite a few people who have problems with accurate WHR. For me it’s unusable during exercise (I am simply not compatible with this technology), so that this algorithm would be a random number generator. I hope Suunto can fix this soon.

              There should really be an information about this on the website: “You only get LTHR and race prediction times if WHR is used”. In my country there is something called consumer rights. As far as I know, if a product doesn’t work as advertised, consumers can request their money back (Suunto had already months to fix this), even after months of use. So maybe it would be a good idea to add this info for legal reasons?

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                MiniForklift Platinum Member @wmichi
                last edited by MiniForklift 4 Feb 2024, 21:08 2 Apr 2024, 21:06

                Sorry, tried to delete my post as it’s not relevant but I don’t have permission to do so. As you were…

                SV Titanium Solar Forest

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                  A Former User @wmichi
                  last edited by 3 Apr 2024, 06:23

                  @wmichi With all due respect, but if this is true it is quite puzzling that no one here has said it!

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                    pavel.samokha
                    last edited by 3 Apr 2024, 07:54

                    The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

                    Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                      MiniForklift Platinum Member @pavel.samokha
                      last edited by 3 Apr 2024, 19:48

                      @pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                      The issue with race predictions don’t work for those who are using heart rate belts should be fixed in the next major firmware release, sorry for inconvenience

                      I know you’re referring to the Race and I have the Vertical, but FWIW I can see the race predictions on my watch and I don’t use HR of any sort

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                        pavel.samokha @MiniForklift
                        last edited by 3 Apr 2024, 20:32

                        @MiniForklift yes, it’s related only to Suunto Race

                        Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                          gilou @pavel.samokha
                          last edited by gilou 4 Apr 2024, 06:47 4 Apr 2024, 06:46

                          @pavel-samokha said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                          @gilou said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                          est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

                          S+ app is not required

                          @pavel-samokha merci pour tes conseils. j’ai enfin réussi a avoir mes données de course ainsi que le seuil lactique en ajoutant l’application S+ "HR zones Duration " Alors même si cet ajout n’est pas requis pour avoir ces valeurs, cela a du bien aider. J’avais deja une dizaine d’activités post mise a jour avant cette dernière. J’espère que cela pourra aider ceux qui étaient dans le même cas que moi.

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                            Mi_chael Bronze Member
                            last edited by 6 Apr 2024, 08:16

                            After 3 or 4 run after the update. My race show the run prediction and the lactate threshold.

                            I run 10 minutes or more on z2 and 10 minutes or more on z3.

                            And i use a Polar H10.

                            Thanks Suunto !

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                              Geoffwilli
                              last edited by 1 May 2024, 14:14

                              I’ve had my race since it launched and still no run prediction or threshold data. Run 5 times a week around 100k all sorts of activities but have never had anything in these fields.

                              Am I doing something wrong!?

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                                wmichi @Geoffwilli
                                last edited by 1 May 2024, 14:54

                                @Geoffwilli It only works if you use the internal OHR, not with external sensors.

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                                  Geoffwilli @wmichi
                                  last edited by 1 May 2024, 15:11

                                  @wmichi
                                  Yeah that’s what I’ve been using. Frustrating as it seems a common issue.

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                                    A Former User @Geoffwilli
                                    last edited by A Former User 5 Jan 2024, 15:20 1 May 2024, 15:19

                                    @Geoffwilli said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                    Yeah that’s what I’ve been using. Frustrating as it seems a common issue.

                                    you only need 3 whr workouts to unlock it…

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                                      Mi_chael Bronze Member
                                      last edited by 1 May 2024, 15:43

                                      For me and my Suunto Race,

                                      Works after 3 run with a Polar H10.

                                      But with 10 minutes in zone 2 and 10 minutes in zone 3.

                                      After that i can see my run prediction and lactate threshold.

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                                        Geoffwilli @Guest
                                        last edited by 1 May 2024, 15:44

                                        @cjanevate I’ve probably done about 300 and still nothing

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                                          Geoffwilli @Mi_chael
                                          last edited by 1 May 2024, 16:03

                                          @Mi_chael I’ve completed all sorts of different running sessions and have done sessions within those zones for longer than the 10min you mentioned. As someone previously noted, it would be useful if Suunto outlined what was required and then it would be clear if there is an error with the software.

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