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    BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing

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    • gilouG Offline
      gilou
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      question peut être très bête, pour les algorithmes qui gèrent la définition du seuil lactique, faut il activer le suivi de sommeil ? Je sais, cela a première vue n’a rien a voir mais des fois certaines valeurs sont issues de combinaisons de fonctions…

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        Arnaud Lclr Bronze Member @gilou
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        @gilou the vast majority of people here will tell you that sleep tracking is activated but that it doesn’t work any better 🫣

        After 8 years with Garmin and several watches in different ranges, I switched to Suunto in 2023, with the Race.

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        • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
          Sebastian Wagner 0
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          in the change log from the newest update they wrote that the running estimate and lactate threshold problems were solved.
          i installed the newest software on my race. and i still got no values for both. did more then 80 runs (long, short, fast, slow) before the update and 3 after the update. What are your experiences after the update? do you have any new tipps?
          @pavel-samokha do you have any insights or ideas?

          t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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            landlord4714 @Sebastian Wagner 0
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            @Sebastian-Wagner-0

            Same new update installed and been on 3 runs since, longest being over an hour. Still no lactate zones.

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              pavel.samokha @Sebastian Wagner 0
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              @Sebastian-Wagner-0 as far as I know it should work, but I’m not the best person to ask. Not an official response but I would keep an eye on it for the next few days to be sure

              Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                fleblanc01 @Sebastian Wagner 0
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                @Sebastian-Wagner-0 same here. Did my 3 runs since the update and I run 5-6 times per week…

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                • leafs93L Offline
                  leafs93 Bronze Member @fleblanc01
                  last edited by

                  @fleblanc01 updated to new firmware, ran once and all my estimates and lactate threshold appeared… and I must say the estimates are really spot on! Kudos to suunto to finally fix it

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                  • gilouG Offline
                    gilou
                    last edited by

                    still no estimate or lactic threshold despite the update and several activities. Another silly question: is it compulsory to enter the feeling? something that wasn’t activated until now.

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                    • pavel.samokhaP Offline
                      pavel.samokha
                      last edited by pavel.samokha

                      if you don’t get estimates a couple tips I have you can try:

                      • Be sure your runs have at least 10 min of running in HR Zone 2 or above and good GNSS(GPS) track (normally it is, but just in case).
                        • We have a nice “HR Zones Duration” S+ app to measure time in HR zones
                      • Do 3 runs meeting criteria above
                      • If you did mentioned above and it didn’t work and you use heartrate belt - try with wrist heart rate

                      If you still don’t get estimates - send logs and let us know. Many issues with estimates were fixed but it could be more which affects some people

                      Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                      • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                        Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
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                        @pavel-samokha

                        Thx for the Infos.
                        Did the 3 Runs with more then 10min Zone 2 , still no values.
                        Do the 10min or more Zone 2 have to be 10 min continious Zone 2 in a run or total in the run? And do i have to run the 3 Runs on consecutive days?

                        And why should it make a differente between optical hr from Watch and hr belt for getting values? And then the Values Maybe wrong because of Bad readings from the optical hr in cold weather.

                        And i am a Little Bit confused, because the Suunto Support Told ne in january that i have to run Zone 3 for 10min plus in 3 Runs.

                        Which Logs should i send ?

                        t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                          pavel.samokha @Sebastian Wagner 0
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                          @Sebastian-Wagner-0 https://www.suunto.com/Support/faq-articles/suunto-app/how-to-send-diagnostic-logs-on-suunto-app-for-ios/ (on Android open Profile -> Settins -> Scroll to bottom)

                          Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                          • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                            Sebastian Wagner 0 @pavel.samokha
                            last edited by

                            @pavel-samokha

                            Watch is connected, but i can Not find the Option to send Logs.

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                            t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                              freeheeler @Sebastian Wagner 0
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                              @Sebastian-Wagner-0
                              settings -> about app
                              the logs function has been moved to keep us agile and dynamic 😉

                              living sideways

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                              • Sebastian Wagner 0S Offline
                                Sebastian Wagner 0 @freeheeler
                                last edited by

                                @freeheeler
                                Thx 👍

                                I Hope Suunto can See something in my data, why i can Not get Running estimate and Lactate threshold values.

                                t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                                  landlord4714 @Sebastian Wagner 0
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                                  Sent logs as well for troubleshooting.

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                                    Christoph_W
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                                    For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

                                    I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

                                    On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

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                                      efbill @Christoph_W
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                                      @Christoph_W said in BUG: Run prediction and lactate threshold missing:

                                      For me no run prediction and lactate threshold available even after the last update.

                                      I tried several things (run with/without Stryd, use own and basic running profile, run between 45min and 3 hours in different zones, do all runs with hr chest strap H10, make a fully reset of watch).

                                      On my Suunto race it did not work since the buying.

                                      Unfortunately the same thing happens to me. I also tried everything I read on the forum but nothing helped.

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                                        yohan
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                                        It seems it’s only working with Watch Heartrate Sensor, I’ll try before the end of this month, but I got a marathon next sunday, so I’ll keep my Verity Sense until I cross this finish line.

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                                          Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @yohan
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                                          @yohan I hope it is not designed that way. The WHR is not accurate enought to give realiable figures.

                                          Suunto Ambit 3
                                          Suunto Spartan Ultra
                                          Suunto Race Ti

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                                            gilou @pavel.samokha
                                            last edited by gilou

                                            @pavel-samokha est-il conseillé de lancer l’application S+ “HR Zones Duration” pour lancer le calcul de seuil lactique ou est ce obligatoire? j’ai fait largement plus de 3 activités depuis la mise a jour mais effectivement sans ce complément S+

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