@timecode yes, it has to be something like that. Old picture … but I was confused as she didn’t look that much younger on the picture

@Jan-Van-de-Velde I own both (my SV was send to repair this summer and I couldn’t train without watch, so I bought the SRs).
I share all your thoughts.
If my SV had advanced sleep tracking (sleep phases), I would probalbly use it every day and night like before…
But I now wear my SRs at night to have have sleep phases (and also because it’s lighter and smaller).
Screen of the SRs is awesome, but I much prefer the touchscreen navigation between screens of my SV. Build quality is great on both event SV nicer to me (plus sapphire and Ti)

Let’s see what Suunto will bring us in the future, but no need to be a genius : next generations of watches will improve amoled watches battery life, and we’ll see OHR and other mesurements tracking improvements.

For now, SV + SRs is a “luxury” but lovely combination !

@danudyk Thanks

@krzysMac means clear sky, that’s pretty normal

@Brad_Olwin I hope it will be made in near future. With new OHR a Race S form factor and MIP and TI and Saphire. Solar is for me not necessary I will decide then if I replace my S9PP with one of these. Anyway, after ZoneSene launch is OHR even less important for me in training. Unfortunately ZoneSense is in the moment for me big mystery… Sometimes I feel that it does the job as expected, and sometimes I’m sure it does not. But for this topic we have different thread here 🙂 .

@Weijiang-Tan i am not if suunto support is reading this. I think you should open up a support issue with them

@Egika said in Race S Tempting Me Back Into Suunto...:

@VoiGAS yes, he was referring to battery saving mode.
Back in Ambit times, the low power GPS indeed was not really accurate. You could select between 1s, 5s and 60s fix rate.

Yes, it was the 5s mode. Down in the canyons it started to glitch measuring the distance really long and by the end of the race it was doubling the distance, consistently adding 0.01 mile for every 10 steps. Somehow it ended up adding distance from GPS and distance from accelerometer together, which resulted in doubling the distance.

Ambit wasn’t as accurate as people think. Yes, at the time it was one of the most accurate watches - thanks to its large GPS antenna. But recently I compared an Ambit 3 Peak track from some years ago against a recent track from Garmin Fenix 7X recorded with multi-band mode. The difference was like day and night - Garmin with dual band was so much more accurate around curves and switchbacks following the trail perfectly. I also think that the Airoha GNSS chipset that was used in Fenix 7 is more accurate than the new Sony chipset used in Race S. The distance is similar, in fact Suunto Race S distance tends to be a tiny bit longer, but Garmin’s track seems to be more precise. Unfortunately Garmin seems to have switched to the new Sony chipset too.

@sracer agree. My biggest annoyance after the charger, which thankfully you don’t need very often is the lack of font sizes.

I think I can only give one watch face with seconds on it I can read without glasses 🤷🏻‍♂️

Do love the vertical, had it over a year now and it has been my companion for many hours and miles but wish they would consider older folk with font size🤷🏻‍♂️

@Rowwen1972 🙄yes until today no lactat Treshhold.

@Egika while I find that a SuuntoPlus app can’t possibly compare to a decent programmed multisports functionality (I didn’t try this one, but I did try the Swimrun app and it just doesn’t work), I agree this is getting off topic and I will leave it at this: the Suunto Race S is a beautiful watch and I’m glad that Courtney now has her own version 🙏 (hopefully with extra functionality to come 🤪).

@RightNow that’s a shame you’ve had bad experience with them: I only have good CS experience with them, they have yet to blame me for anything. Doesn’t everyone run with a trundle wheel…?

@far-blue no laces, interesting, though. I hadn’t thought of that.

@Richard-McGlory we ‘swapped the pods’: what was 1, is now 2, and the elevation profile is back. Key point: data from the pod overwrites data from the watch, every time, confirmed by their support. I imagine all that’s retained is the HR and GNSS track.

@off242 just used it yesterday with no issues.

@Jeffrey-Tillack Suunto has a wonderful Courtney Dawaulter edition of the Race S!

While browsing the Garmin forum postings for their latest watch, the Instinct 3, I saw a former Instinct (1) user complain about the poor lap counting both on the old and now on the new watch:

“Pool Swimming lap counting: PLEASE make it better!”

https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/instinct-3/401629/pool-swimming-lap-counting-please-make-it-better

[…]
“It happens under specific circumstances. In my case, if the swimming pool is crowded and I unfortunately have to slow down, it ends up counting double (or triple) laps”
[…]
“Now I bought an Instinct 3 Solar, and had high hopes this would be better, just to figure out it’s just as bad… I understand the tips (have a clear push from the wall etc [1]), but there is no excuse to not make this algorithm better!”

The poster then goes on with suggestions of how the programmers should enhance the length detection, and it all sounds reasonable enough. Though when also reading the noted Garmin tips, I shiver with the complexity:

“Tips to Improve Accuracy of Pool Swim Activities”

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=iS2KcmGiVb4djrE1lri8i7

Programming using simple ‘while’/‘if’/‘for’ etc language entries suddenly feels totally inadequate. It seems to be a nightmare of trying to catch the exceptions.

No doubt my own good experience with pool distance counting comes from simplistic circumstances, where I can maintain an even speed without disruptions. Also, my push-offs are always followed by three to five metres of underwater glide. Easy-peasy detection stuff…

I do not envy the coders in this specific counting case. Though, that’s why they are so highly paid 😉

@Yurii-Hultiaiev

here may be the explanation

@pavel-samokha said in Suunto Vertical won’t update from 2.30.38 to recent update:

There was technical issue in the cloud, please try again

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@Brad_Olwin yes but I’m unsure currently how to get it right. I have another issue in that I can’t record Stryd Air Power unless I use the Suunto Stryd app but I don’t seem to be able to use that app to execute planned workouts from TrainingPeaks.

It’s all quote fussy in comparison to what I’m used to.

@Mirek_R Try charging it fully then doing a soft-reset (hold the upper button for 12 seconds) and see if it fixes the drain issue. The main trigger for the bug that drains the battery seems to be when you start an activity with navigation (with a route, not just breadcrumb). A soft reset fixes the issue until the next time you use a route. If the battery drain is still there after a soft reset, talk to customer services and you can prob. send the watch back for a replacement or repair.

@Mff73 said in Windsurfing parameters in knots:

new Suunto+ apps are not developped by the community (yet ? ).

I guees is not a problem to add 8 parameters for all people who have new wathces and they are in nautical sports:

Nautical MAX SPEED (in knots)
2 sec max (in knots)
10 sec run (in knots)
100met run (in knots)
500met run (in knots)
nautical mile (1852m) (in knots)
average 5/10 ( best 10sec runs) (in knots)
alpha jibe (@500) (in knots)

AND WE HAVE IT ALL

@iterumtenta I use use the data just as a hint on my current health. That’s why Suunto is good when it just offer basic functions.
But when it’s just offer basic functions I also want everything to work