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      A Former User @olymay
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      @olymay believe or not, it does not work.

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        olymay Gold Members @Guest
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        @g-q said in Suunto 7 Successor:

        @olymay believe or not, it does not work.

        Very odd. In that case, I would suggest contacting Suunto Support.

        One last thought…
        Is your watch storage full? maybe it is limited on how much storage is left?
        I have no music or third party apps installed, so have loads of free space.

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          A Former User @olymay
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          @olymay said in Suunto 7 Successor:

          Very odd. In that case

          yep

          One last thought…
          Is your watch storage full? maybe it is limited on how much storage is left?
          I have no music or third party apps installed, so have loads of free space.

          me too, no other apps or anything else installed

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            olymay Gold Members @Guest
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            @g-q Are you able to share a screenshot? or a photo of the watch?

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              A Former User @olymay
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              @olymay said in Suunto 7 Successor:

              You can also use the touchscreen to pan the map around as well as pinch to zoom in and out.

              Just out of curiosity if you pinch to zoom out to say 20km and then you use the ± buttons are you able to restore your old default i.e. 54km?

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                A Former User @olymay
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                @olymay not now, I’ll do this evening. thanks!

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                  @olymay @lexterm77 @Jamie-BG @cosme-costa @ChrisA @isazi @suzzlo Let’s continue this conversation on topic.
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                    @olymay

                    5kruuner predictions
                    https://the5krunner.com/2021/11/28/2022-sports-watch-update/?amp=1

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                      @davorp said in Suunto 7 Successor:

                      @olymay

                      5kruuner predictions
                      https://the5krunner.com/2021/11/28/2022-sports-watch-update/?amp=1

                      hahahahahahaha

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                        olymay Gold Members
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                        Would it be too much to hope for a Suunto 7 successor to come this year and be powered by one of these?

                        Please Suunto… This could easily be the WearOS champ!!
                        (although it would need to be priced more competitively than the S7 was at launch!)

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                          harry08 Bronze Member @olymay
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                          I had a look in the German Suunto online store. Almost all of the non titanium Suunto 7 versions are currently not available.
                          Maybe this is a hint that a successor is around the corner.
                          It was the same with Suunto 5 a few weeks ago.

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                            Aleksander H Bronze Member @harry08
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                            @harry08 said in Suunto 7 Successor:

                            I had a look in the German Suunto online store. Almost all of the non titanium Suunto 7 versions are currently not available.
                            Maybe this is a hint that a successor is around the corner.
                            It was the same with Suunto 5 a few weeks ago.

                            Maybe. Could also simply be that they are emptying stock due to low sales. Let’s be positive, while at the same time tempering expectations 😊.

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                              olymay Gold Members @Aleksander H
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                              Personally, I think it is a bit cheeky of Suunto to continue selling the Suunto 7 knowing it is running extremely outdated hardware and will receive no more updates (last update received April 2021!).

                              Don’t get me wrong, it’s a stunning watch and I love mine. I am really very happy with it and glad I bought it.

                              Bout would I recommend to someone that they spend £259 for regular or £329 for titanium version? Not a chance! Half that price and maybe, but only maybe.

                              Sadly the Suunto 7 was always overpriced and it seriously hurt it’s sales. I saw countless comments about how much people wanted to buy one but it was too expensive.
                              Most of us on this forum understand the quality of Suunto and the work they put into their devices, so can understand (to a point) the prices.
                              However WearOS is different and to break into that market a device needs to be priced competitively.

                              Someone will buy a Suunto (or a Garmin, Coros, Polar, etc) with the expectation of it lasting 3, 4, 5, 6, years etc…
                              WearOS devices are more like phones and would be expected to last 2-3 years (maybe 4 at a push).

                              If Suunto release a new S7 running cutting edge hardware, give it everything users have been asking for (sensor support, auto pause, more advanced modes, etc) AND launch at a sensible price, then it could easily take a big share of the WearOS market and provide a real boost to the Suunto brand. It would likely be a great introduction to the brand to many people (I had never used Suunto before my S7, and only vaguely knew of the brand as a company that made dive watches, purely because a friend has one) but now I love Suunto.
                              Get the devices out there, get brand awareness, and the money will flow.

                              But then again, this is just my opinion and what do it know 😂

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                                @olymay but if suunto can’t both put in great hardware/quality materials/manufacturing in Finland and sell it at the price point of a regular wear os watch - I think there’s a reason why suunto watches cost this much.
                                But I agree with you that wear os watches date quicker, just don’t see the way around it.

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                                  Egika Platinum Member @DMytro
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                                  @dmytro the 7 is made in China…
                                  But I don’t agree that the hardware is extremely outdated.
                                  My S7 does what it is made for extremely well. It is neither slow nor limited in functionality.
                                  I don’t like the idea of running through gadgets at high speed. My iPhone 6S is still going strong as well. But this is a personal thing.

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                                    olymay Gold Members @DMytro
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                                    @dmytro I may be wrong, but using in house factories to make watches will up the cost (economy of scale etc).

                                    As the S7 is made in China and uses mostly off the shelf hardware, this should bring the costs down significantly.

                                    The main expenses to Suunto would be in the design and the software (which with regards to the current S7 are simply incredible!)

                                    I’m not against paying more for a Suunto 7 replacement, as it is clearly a step up from a typical WearOS watch (for example a fragile Fossil that breaks simply by charging it!).

                                    Right now, even the most expensive Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 Classic 4G (46mm) costs £409.
                                    Samsung are a well known brand in the smartwatch game and are also known for being expensive. (it is also the only device running WearOS 3 so is charging a premium for that right now).

                                    The most expensive Fossil Gen 6 is £299.

                                    If the S7 successor came in around the £300 price point it has a very real change of becoming a best seller.

                                    Google tried to sell their Pixels at a premium price thinking that customers associate high price with high quality. They do, but only to a point. As a result, they never sold very well.
                                    Their current Pixel 6 is a premium phone that competes with the best of the best, yet undercuts all others of similar spec. And surprise surprise it’s the best selling Google phone ever and has stolen back a chink of market share (yes it has a long way to go to sell as many as Apple and Samsung, but it’s a start).

                                    Suunto could (and I think needs to) do the same. Premium top end hardware with class leading fitness software at a competitive price = big sales.

                                    (again, all my opinion. but i have been following the tech industry for decades and have a fair bit of confidence in what i say)

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                                      Egika Platinum Member @olymay
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                                      @olymay

                                      Premium top end hardware with class leading software at a competitive price

                                      I think you can sell everything in big numbers if you follow this advice. Everything.

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                                        olymay Gold Members @Egika
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                                        @egika the SD 3100 was launched in 2018.

                                        Four years old in the smartwatch world is extremely outdated.

                                        And I agree that whilst it is still running well (my S7 still runs well and better than the day I bought it), if they want to attract new customers and sell new hardware (and therefore make money) then new hardware is a must.

                                        The amin problem with outdated hardware (in smartwatch and smartphone) is firmware and security updates.

                                        The S7 hasn’t received a firmware update since April 2021 and running security patch 1 July 2021.
                                        Would any of us run a PC without up to date antivirus? Why would we run a smartwatch/smartphone without up to date security patch? (I know it’s not exactly the same, but it’s close enough).
                                        I won’t let any of my family run a smartphone that is beyond it’s security update lifespan (most of the time they get my old phones as I update pretty quickly 😂)

                                        The average smartphone is replaced every 2-3 years (more often with enthusiasts like me) and smartwatches are pretty similar.

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                                          olymay Gold Members @Egika
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                                          @egika said in Suunto 7 Successor:

                                          @olymay

                                          Premium top end hardware with class leading software at a competitive price

                                          I think you can sell everything in big numbers if you follow this advice. Everything.

                                          The price just needs to be competitive, it doesn’t have to be budget or run at a loss.

                                          (although sometimes running at a loss work well. Sony sell PlayStations at a loss and recoup the money from games sold, it’s genius!)

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                                            @olymay said in Suunto 7 Successor:

                                            Four years old in the smartwatch world is extremely outdated.

                                            True, but I’d really rather wear an old watch and keep getting updates for several years (I’m also willing to pay for a major upgrade, of course!!!).

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