Suunto 9 Peak Pro?

[trailcafe]

@Mi_chael try installing non beta version which is 2.17.2

[Mi_chael]

@trailcafe

It’s the same

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

So… Any chance that we’ll see different vibration profiles for workout and standby? Like, a vibration that is being felt and not heard by the room full of people?

I really get it that it’s better when it’s stronger and perhaps even louder when working out, but current vibration implementation is generally useless in quiet environments.

And it’s not about a couple of laughs that it’s sounds like a toy (which it does). It’s super loud and annoying, and haptics are meant to be an alternative for sounds, not a different kind of sound. Discrete, when sound is not an option or wouldn’t be heard otherwise.

Please Suunto, don’t make it another “keep moving to see direction” kind of feature.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

It just occurred to me when using the timer:

The vibrations are so strong that something resonates inside the watch, which makes this noise.

During the countdown from 10 to 1 second - vibrations are gentle and super silent.

So, perhaps, it just requires some tuning?

[v.sacre]

Do we need to follow a navigation route during a running exercice if we want to see Strava segment ?

I have add the suunto guide, well synchronized with 2 starred segments and when running on them, nothing was appearing on the strava guide screen…

[Egika]

@v-sacre no need to navigate a route.
Have you checked in SA if your segments are shown in the S+ to be synced?

[v.sacre]

@Egika Yes it was.

[isazi]

@v-sacre are you using the appropriate S+ guide during the activity?

[Mi_chael]

@trailcafe

Same with 2.18.0 (10141).

Where is my Strava live segments…

[v.sacre]

@isazi yes. I see correctly the guide screen during the activity. But nothing is detected/displayed when I came to starred segments

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

OK, so I went on full bastard and got a Titanium Slate. An upgrade from S5. And boy, an upgrade it is!

Apart from a vibration-induced WTF moment that I’ve specified earlier, I’m very impressed on the evolution of UI and the new, minimalistic style. I’m happy that I didn’t get the earlier S9P, as this model feels certainly more complete by having new hardware capable of the new UI and not only the external sexiness.

And the new UI isn’t just aesthetics, it’s way more than that. The navigation was reorganized significantly: Going up from watch face, there’s just training, going down it’s shortcuts that used to be on middle button hold and going left or right there are various functionalities that are now called widgets.

Considering that widgets are visible and switchable in the SA, it may indicate that more are to come! However, it would be awesome if SA would allow reordering them. I’d love to have my most used ones as first to the left and right. For example, I use a timer a lot for tea brewing and would benefit to have it next to watch face for quick access.

The new screen and UI is super readable, crisp and is able to store more data without being aliased. Being used to small numbers, I was struggling at first run to read the screen as there was less whitespace between the numbers, but I believe it’s just a matter of habit.

Rise to wake is improved considerably from last implementation (compared to S5) - it detects the actual rise gesture, and it doesn’t just light the watch for a consistent time, but as long as the hand is risen - it turns off on the reverse gesture - not bad. However, I can’t get a grip on how standby and rise to wake are implemented in S9PP, compared to S5, I’ll have to give it some time and fiddling with as I prefer to have a very, very subtle light on rise and constant during the run. As far as I’m aware, I can’t have a super dim rise to wake and super dim backlight during the run (that is not blinding). It used to be perfect on S5 with its dim standby light.

The screen/UI/touch combination is great for reading and scrolling notifications. It’s way more useful compared to S5.

I had concerns about the touch screen on a sports watch. I thought it’s a gimmick, but no more. It’s disabled for sports and makes an everyday use of the watch very pleasurable and more like a smartwatch or a smartphone than a “stupid” sports watch.

The buttons are there, although two less than in S5. Which I was worried about, but it seems they aren’t really needed with the touch screen. I haven’t had an opportunity to navigate between many screens during the workout, so I can’t say how frustrating (or not) it will be to not have a back button. And the remaining three buttons are very clicky and confident. The S5 was a mess in this regard and required a substantial force to press in order to register inputs.

Running power is there, and it’s certainly nice to have, although I was naively thinking that it’ll show a bigger number when running on dirt road compared to some nice and even surface (which is ~10 HR more demanding for me). But the numbers change with pace and uphill / downhill, so it’s a nice indication to indicate more / less effort instantly, even when crossing embankments.

The software seems complete, but not polished and somewhat rushed, perhaps. The 0-day update fixes some strange bugs like missing language strings, and the vibrations are too strong on the titanium edition, that must have slipped past testing. But I’m not worried about that, as for the past three years I’ve seen Suunto improving the S series beyond what other companies would call economically viable, so I have my fingers crossed for polishing.

GPS / barometer, general accuracy - I haven’t had a chance to test it yet, but after a first, easy and flat run it seems OK, nothing to worry about.

The funny thing about S9PP is how it looks and how it feels to interact with. It’s solid, well-built, minimalistic, but somehow feels fragile. And I suspect it has to do with its aesthetics and how toughness is perceived. Which is pretty crazy, as the watch doesn’t look like a very solid fitness device that can easily withstand elements. Which I find very brave for Suunto to crush the status quo of sports devices (although the previous compass rose inspired aesthetics was very nice too). This is especially true for the titanium version as it basically disappears on the wrist, under the sleeve. I’d say it looks stealthy. If someone isn’t into sports watches - he or she won’t know that it’s a sports watch. Rather, a very elegant smartwatch.

Overall, I find it a great upgrade from the S5 and I hope it’ll be my trusted companion for years to come. And my dad will be happy to get my S5 as it’s still kickin’!

[Egika]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel Reordering widgets in SA is already there in the iOS app at least

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Egika ah, yes, it’s there on Android too. It seems that I was too lazy to press and hold it Thanks for the tip!

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel oh I didnt know that lol

[altcmd]

@isazi Any ETA on this?

[Zdeněk Hruška]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel I have to say, after 3 or 4 years with S9B, I am so happy with S9PP! I didn’t have any issues with my S9B (apart from the bad middle button) and it is a great watch, we ran so many kilometres together! However to be honest I felt that the competition is pulling apart from Suunto. But in my opinion S9PP is such a great device!

I agree with everything you said. All the improvements, smaller or bigger, make a huge sense to me. The experience from using S9PP is so much better that I can’t imagine to go back to my S9B because there would be something missing.

I have to say that I didn’t like the smaller size at first but I got used to it and it is so much comfortable for everyday wear that I almost forget I am wearing the watch.

I know that the watch isn’t perfect and there is definitely a big room for improvement but… I am happy that I didn’t give up on Suunto like a few of my friends did.

Thanks to everyone participating on this great piece of electronics and thanks to all the people in this forum for not giving up on Suunto. I know that it is just a device, a thing, and it doesn’t make or break how I feel during training and running. However I can say that I hadn’t feel so good about some device for a long time. And in a way it makes me happy

[Martin Vrska]

@Zdeněk-Hruška Now imagine that the S9PP is already at home, but I won’t get it as a gift until Christmas Day. 🤭.

[Spree]

I had a rare unhappy GPS day today, but the last 3-4 runs before this my GPS with S9PP has been amazingly accurate. Right side of the cycling path for most of the duration level accurate. Of course there are wiggles here and there, but it’s just so much smoother and with so many fewer forays into buildings comapred to any previous watch I’ve owned.

I’ve also noticed that this reduces the distance compared to my S9B by at least 1%. I’ve gotten slower with the new toy :D.

[Zdeněk Hruška]

@Martin-Vrska Actually it’s a great thing! The watch can get even better before the Christmas Eve so your experience may be much more interesting! And as an added value you will have bigger motivation to go outside during the Christmas holiday!

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yeah, there’s no visual indication until you press and hold