Suunto 9 Peak Pro?

[el2thek]

@skifun sounds like it’s personal. Though other brands seemingly are better at this. The hr of the 9 (baro) is also supposed to be shit. For me however it produces acceptable results while running. Not as accurate as my h10 and if it’s cold it takes about 15 minutes for me to warm up.

[Brad_Olwin]

@zhang965 Yes, my avg running pace is not as fast as yours…I typically include quite a bit of elevation in my runs.
I wanted to educate you a little more since you mentioned my pace. I run ultramarathons. These are very long races; my favorite distances are 80-160 km. The ones I run take place in mountainous terrain where everyone even the elite athletes walk (power hike) up to half of a race. It is not sustainable to run up steep hills in a long race and hard to run uphill in the dark after 80-100 km. So, I practice power hiking during my runs. That slows my pace considerably.

An athlete you may have heard of and certainly some in the forum have heard of is a famous ultra runner named Killian Jornet. His pace for a 160 km race in the summer of 2022 was 7:55 min/km, much faster than I could possibly go.

I am not Suunto employee but have been testing for them for five years now. My goal here is to help people and give feedback to the fieldtest team from the forums. There are several others here that do the same.

[A Former User]

@el2thek Yes, it’s personal. Never had Suunto watches before, this is my first month with my first Suunto and I thought to give my feedback. Despite all the this I don’t like about the watch, I’ll keep it and use it for ma activities. I also mentioned the things that I like.

[mikekoski490]

@Brad_Olwin Thanks for all of your advice and time helping everyone on the forums, and for your efforts to keep positive feedback, discourse and interaction here. Also in awe of the amazing distances you ultra marathoners run! Ive only done multi day backcountry hikes that long. I have done several week long trips, and 3 days in, looking at the amazing vistas I’ve seen or hiked into, my wrist device is less as important as my tent, sleep system, water, food and fuel. Perspective.

[Spree]

@skifun This is really interesting. I have struggled a lot in the past with OHR, particularly with Suunto’s 9 Baro and also with a Garmin Fenix 6. I find the 9PP works well on me - steady runs are almost perfect, and in my last trail over 2h45 minutes it completely lost the plot once for about 7-8 minutes during a fast descent, but the rest was always within about 1-3 beats of the chest strap.

[Jamie BG]

@mikekoski490 said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

or Garmin didnt count running as part of your steps count).

This is very incorrect - Garmin does include step count as part of running activities (unless there was a specific one you were using). Just confirmed on my Epix from last nights run.
Note that post activity you will not be able to see a step count for that activity unless you install a 3rd party data field from IQ connect, however during the activity you can have a step field on your tracking screen, and or post activity you can go into the app/web and go into the step widget. Where your running icon is against the daily graph you will notice a sharp increase in your step count. On the app in this widget if you turn your phone into landscape mode it takes the watch into the graph where you can explode it and a long press can give you the step count prior to the activity and then move that to the end of the activity - and a quick substraction can give you an estimate of your step count - not ideal I know and something that should really be native.

But it is definitely there and false to claim it doesn’t do this.

[A Former User]

@Spree I have given up and don’t expect an acceptable ohr data. Whenever I can I use my H10 and the problem is solved.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

I did some cycling this week, first time with S9PP. I’ve mounted it on the original Suunto bike mount and learned that vibrations nicely resonate with the bike, making them substantially louder than the regular sounds.

This really is absurd, how loud it is.

[Brad_Olwin]

@mikekoski490 All it really takes is to lighten your load and running shoes instead of boots. You would be surprised how far you can go carrying just what you need. I carry a small water filter, 500 ml of water, a light weight jacket, extra shirt gloves and buff for a day in the mountains that could be up to 50k. I should add food too as I take 200-300 kcal/hr, and I don’t use gels.

[mikekoski490]

@Jamie-BG OK. I didn’t have an EPIX 2 though. I had a Garmin Fenix 6 - 2 years ago. It might have been different then, or pilot error, but no worries. Thanks for the Garmin tips and sorry you felt I was making a false claim! Oh my god… there is a Garmin van parked outside my house - I take it back - it was definitely my Polar Vantage from 5 year ago that did that.

[Jamie BG]

@mikekoski490 my Garmin F6x also offered same step data as Epix - must have been your polar.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

Question to other S9PP users - are you experiencing lag when cycling screens during the workout? It takes up to ~3 or 4 seconds after pressing the middle button for the watch to cycle the screen. After it does with the first one, it’s responsive again, but the first one is nowhere near instant.

[mikekoski490]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel Hi. Not specific to cycling screens but I have had the odd slow scrolling in other sports modes.

[A Former User]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel I don’t notice such lag. The most annoying lag is when starting an activity.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

Perhaps this is because I’m using endurance instead of performance?

[Brad_Olwin]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

Perhaps this is because I’m using endurance instead of performance?

Are you doing extra long events? Otherwise why use Endurance? The battery life on the 9PP for Performance is outstanding. I will check this out though, you should not have that lag.

[A Former User]

@Łukasz-Szmigiel I don’t know cause so far I’ve used only performance and custom mode.

[Jeffrey Tillack]

@Brad_Olwin if I’m doing 50k in the mountains, I take a ton of water and gels. Very little water in the mountains around me.

As for OHR, my S9B is really accurate for normal walking/hiking, however for running it’s not ideal - I think my wrist is too thin I think. But I’ve always worn a H10 so I don’t regard it as an issue. My Gamrin 245, despite it’s short battery life is only 42mm on the wrist and therefore is always pretty much line ball with the H10. It’s the best OHR I’ve ever had on a watch. probs becuase of the size.

But like you said, for those of us that run ultra’s, it’s more about walking the hills and running the down’s, so I don’t worry about HR that much, just trying to keep moving and recording the gps track and elevation gain (which the S9B is far better at. The gamrmin has no baro.)

Step counting is irrelevant for me. I normally (try to) do 60-90mins strenuous exercise a day so I don’t care about steps. No watch is accurate anyway.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Brad_Olwin because it’s more than good enough and provides longer battery life.

To test this, run for ~15 - 20 minutes without touching the watch and then press the middle button once or a couple of times. In my case - the cycling of first screen lags for a few seconds and after that everything is responsive again. The data on the screen is being refreshed without any problems (or I simply don’t notice it being slow).

[kamarasm]

@skifun on my S9PP, I experiences a constant 8 sec lag, when I start an activity with guides.
While it is known and every time 8 sec, I expect it and live with it. But I hope that it will be solved in the next firmware