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    Łukasz Szmigiel
    last edited by 21 Mar 2023, 17:35

    Question to other S9PP users - are you experiencing lag when cycling screens during the workout? It takes up to ~3 or 4 seconds after pressing the middle button for the watch to cycle the screen. After it does with the first one, it’s responsive again, but the first one is nowhere near instant.

    S9PP 2.40.38

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      mikekoski490 Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
      last edited by 21 Mar 2023, 17:56

      @Łukasz-Szmigiel Hi. Not specific to cycling screens but I have had the odd slow scrolling in other sports modes.

      Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

      Current: Suunto Race Ti

      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

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        A Former User @Łukasz Szmigiel
        last edited by 21 Mar 2023, 18:24

        @Łukasz-Szmigiel I don’t notice such lag. The most annoying lag is when starting an activity.

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          Łukasz Szmigiel
          last edited by 21 Mar 2023, 21:26

          Perhaps this is because I’m using endurance instead of performance?

          S9PP 2.40.38

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
            last edited by Brad_Olwin 21 Mar 2023, 21:28

            @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

            Perhaps this is because I’m using endurance instead of performance?

            Are you doing extra long events? Otherwise why use Endurance? The battery life on the 9PP for Performance is outstanding. I will check this out though, you should not have that lag.

            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              A Former User @Łukasz Szmigiel
              last edited by 21 Mar 2023, 21:49

              @Łukasz-Szmigiel I don’t know cause so far I’ve used only performance and custom mode.

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                Jeffrey Tillack Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                last edited by 21 Mar 2023, 23:27

                @Brad_Olwin if I’m doing 50k in the mountains, I take a ton of water and gels. Very little water in the mountains around me.

                As for OHR, my S9B is really accurate for normal walking/hiking, however for running it’s not ideal - I think my wrist is too thin I think. But I’ve always worn a H10 so I don’t regard it as an issue. My Gamrin 245, despite it’s short battery life is only 42mm on the wrist and therefore is always pretty much line ball with the H10. It’s the best OHR I’ve ever had on a watch. probs becuase of the size.

                But like you said, for those of us that run ultra’s, it’s more about walking the hills and running the down’s, so I don’t worry about HR that much, just trying to keep moving and recording the gps track and elevation gain (which the S9B is far better at. The gamrmin has no baro.)

                Step counting is irrelevant for me. I normally (try to) do 60-90mins strenuous exercise a day so I don’t care about steps. No watch is accurate anyway.

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                  Łukasz Szmigiel @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 08:29

                  @Brad_Olwin because it’s more than good enough and provides longer battery life.

                  To test this, run for ~15 - 20 minutes without touching the watch and then press the middle button once or a couple of times. In my case - the cycling of first screen lags for a few seconds and after that everything is responsive again. The data on the screen is being refreshed without any problems (or I simply don’t notice it being slow).

                  S9PP 2.40.38

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                    kamarasm Bronze Member @Guest
                    last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 11:26

                    @skifun on my S9PP, I experiences a constant 8 sec lag, when I start an activity with guides.
                    While it is known and every time 8 sec, I expect it and live with it. But I hope that it will be solved in the next firmware 😉

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                      Łukasz Szmigiel @kamarasm
                      last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 11:34

                      @kamarasm there’s lag even without guides, although not 8s, but ~3, maybe 4.

                      S9PP 2.40.38

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                        MKPotts Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
                        last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 11:53

                        @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                        I used my S9PP in endurance mode for a long race in January and I think I experienced the lag you describe.
                        Every time I wanted to change screens it seemed like I had to initially press the button twice - once to “wake up” the watch (backlight turned on) and again to make the first screen change. Then it worked as normal for subsequent screens (no lag).
                        At the time I put it down to user error - maybe not pressing the button correctly - because I was wearing gloves and generally very tired. But it could have been screen lag that made it seem that the first button press didn’t work properly.
                        I’m doing a 50-60hr race at the beginning of April and will probably use endurance mode, so will see how it behaves then.

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                          Łukasz Szmigiel @MKPotts
                          last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 12:05

                          @MKPotts thanks, this is exactly my experience. How did endurance perform for you in such a long activity?

                          S9PP 2.40.38

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                            MKPotts Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
                            last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 12:56

                            @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                            It was excellent overall, completely reliable and no issues with track quality. I split the race into two activities because I wasn’t sure about storage space (race took 101hrs) but, looking afterwards, it would have been ok as one activity.
                            Other than the screen lag, the only problem I had was navigation track orientation near the end when moving very slowly or stationary. I’m guessing the compass lost calibration when I charged the watch but I didn’t realise you can calibrate the compass during an activity on the S9PP. I’m assuming that would have fixed it.
                            Last thing I noticed is that Strava can’t read the power data properly when recording in endurance mode (though duration / pace data is ok, unlike previous problems with FusedTrack files). But this is a specific Strava problem, no problem with TP, Runalyze etc.
                            There’s a problem with autolaps, where sometimes the watch returns to the first screen, not the screen you were on. But this isn’t specific to endurance mode, it happens in performance mode too.

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                              Łukasz Szmigiel @MKPotts
                              last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 13:02

                              @MKPotts sounds awesome. Did you notice some parts of path missing gps for like 15 - 30 seconds at random?

                              S9PP 2.40.38

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                                isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 15:16

                                @Łukasz-Szmigiel the S9PP is on 2.22.x right? Lag at the start is solved already in 2.23.x, in fact I do not have anymore lag on my S9P, that’s why I thought S9PP should also be “lagless”. My S9P does not lag at the start, not even with S+ apps, it does with some guides, hopefully that will also be fixed soon.

                                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                Blog: isazi's home

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                                  A Former User @isazi
                                  last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 15:23

                                  @isazi Great news 🤘🏻

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                                    MKPotts Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                    last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 15:24

                                    @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                    @MKPotts sounds awesome. Did you notice some parts of path missing gps for like 15 - 30 seconds at random?
                                    No, not that I noticed. Most of the route was in open country but there were some stretches, of a few km each, passing through dense forest and signal/track looked fine.
                                    These are the two tracks if you want to have a look yourself (I didn’t check every bit!):
                                    https://maps.suunto.com/move/markpotts/63c71eb414f9267dafeea053
                                    https://maps.suunto.com/move/markpotts/63c95010a3fc32176b5be341

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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
                                      last edited by 22 Mar 2023, 17:30

                                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel I’ll check today on test firmware and let you know.

                                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                        A Former User
                                        last edited by 23 Mar 2023, 18:50

                                        Is there a way to avoid the watch marking a lap when I accidentally press the down button? I don’t always lock my watch during an activity and I hate how clumsy and inconvenient the lock/unlock is implemented.

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
                                          last edited by 23 Mar 2023, 19:22

                                          @skifun said in Suunto 9 Peak Pro?:

                                          Is there a way to avoid the watch marking a lap when I accidentally press the down button? I don’t always lock my watch during an activity and I hate how clumsy and inconvenient the lock/unlock is implemented.

                                          I am used to this but if you simply hold the button down it will not mark a lap. I find this annoying as well. I like to mark Ski Touring Transitions but typically lock the watch as it is on the outside of a jacket and buttons can get pressed accidentally.

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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