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    • v.sacreV Offline
      v.sacre Silver Members @dombo
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      @dombo There is no problem using it, power is correct on Suunto. But what @Likarnik points out is that Suunto do not show your left/right balance and all other cycling dynamics.

      A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
      Suunto Wing

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        dombo Bronze Member @v.sacre
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        @v-sacre I have only single sided Stages and it does not provide additional metrics. The question is, if those metrics are stored in fit file or not.

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          kamarasm Bronze Member
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          Hmm, I realized that in Vertical is possible to enable two Suunto plus apps in a same time. šŸ™‚
          Really good start, however app and guide are not working together yet.

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            isazi Moderator @kamarasm
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            @kamarasm yet šŸ˜‰

            Also, used S+ apps are now remembered.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

            Blog: isazi's home

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              suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
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              @mikekoski490 Thanks! Interesting. Do you still wear sometimes S9PP during night? Is it comfortable. I can’t stand it 24/7. Probably therefore microfiber strap is better…

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                v.sacre Silver Members @dombo
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                @dombo I would say no. But I am not the expert for that topic šŸ˜‰

                A3S | S9B | S9P | S9PP | Suunto Vertical Ti
                Suunto Wing

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                • mikekoski490M Offline
                  mikekoski490 Bronze Member @suuntastic
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                  @suuntastic I do wear my S9PP to bed, and all other past watches - and will with the Vertical. Never bothered me. šŸ™‚

                  +1 on the microfiber strap. I love mine. Super comfy and durable so far too.

                  Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                  Current: Suunto Race Ti

                  Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                  Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                    suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
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                    @mikekoski490 I always thought, that the resting HR right after waking up ist most important and also a sign of recovery maybe nowadays also HRV. But having the whole HR graph ist maybe expert thing. And I can not imagine the benefit of knowing sleeping hours from watch. I know when I am going to bed and wakeing up and I can’t change more when already living a health lifestyle… But after all if there is an athlete use for OHR (I believe you), it should be there…

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                      mikekoski490 Bronze Member @suuntastic
                      last edited by mikekoski490

                      @suuntastic Sounds like you are a naturally good sleeper! Some people aren’t and have lots of wake ups and sleep gaps so automatically tracking helps understand stress for training.

                      Vertical also does increased HR recording which will help accuracy of those stress scores and can train accordingly.

                      Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                      Current: Suunto Race Ti

                      Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                      Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                        Tieutieu Platinum Member
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                        I have a question concerning power and tss calculation.
                        With my s9b tss was a hr calculated value for running activities. (I always run with the chest strap).
                        Just went back from a 1h30 run that gives me usually around 80/90 tss with hr. With the vertical, tss is based on pwr by default, and there the value of tss is 123. If I change for hr based calculation, the value is going down to 81.
                        I’m confused there is such this difference and so, don’t know wich tss calculation method to use…

                        Suunto’s devices at home :
                        Vertical titanium solar
                        Suunto Race S
                        S9pp titanium sand
                        Suunto Wing
                        S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                          taziden Gold Members @suuntastic
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                          @suuntastic said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                          @mikekoski490 Thanks! Interesting. Do you still wear sometimes S9PP during night? Is it comfortable. I can’t stand it 24/7. Probably therefore microfiber strap is better…

                          Can’t stand it with the silicon band. No problem with a nylon velcro one.

                          S9PP

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                            dombo Bronze Member @isazi
                            last edited by dombo

                            @isazi yes, this is gamechanger! and it is worth to mention, that during pause you can change/add another sport app from option menu.

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                              isazi Moderator @dombo
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                              @dombo no need to pause, you can do it during the activity just by holding the middle button to enter the settings screen.

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                                Ivan De Rasis
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                                Semplicemente spettacolare!!!

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                                Suunto Vertical

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                                  herlas Silver Members @Tieutieu
                                  last edited by herlas

                                  @Tieutieu first off, these are completely different ways to measure TSS.

                                  have you configured anything in your watch in regards to power zones for running?

                                  Long history short, TSS is calculated using formula: TSS = (sec x NPĀ® x IFĀ®)/(FTP x 3600) x 100

                                  The important metric here is FTP, which is the best effort in average watts a runner can hold for 60 mins straight only.

                                  You’ll need to do test to find what your current running FTP is, I use Stryd power meter so I get FTP (CP in Stryd terms) from them. In your case, you can do known field tests like 3/9 test or 30 time trial to get this, or even try S+ FTP Test, this is for cycling but it can apply here as an initial reference.

                                  Once you have this FTP number, you set your power zones making sure this number is your z4 upper limit in your Suunto power zones for running.

                                  Suunto is missing the key feature of allowing us to set FTP value alone, this is available in TrainingPeaks though.

                                  Once at least you do this, you won’t get any meaningful TSS based on power.

                                  If you want to explore power based TSS, highly recommend opening a TP free account and playing there too.

                                  Hope this helps

                                  SRS Ti
                                  A3P (drill mode for pool swimming 🤦🤷)
                                  Galaxy Z Flip 3 / Galaxy S24+

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                                    Tieutieu Platinum Member @herlas
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                                    @herlas said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                                    Hope this helps

                                    Wow ! Thanks a lot ! So I’ll take time to set everything properly, and until then I’ll set to tss hr calculation to keep « known valuesĀ Ā».

                                    šŸ™ šŸ™

                                    Suunto’s devices at home :
                                    Vertical titanium solar
                                    Suunto Race S
                                    S9pp titanium sand
                                    Suunto Wing
                                    S9B titanium Ambassador edition, A3P, X6

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                                      suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
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                                      @mikekoski490 Let’s call Non-OHR Version then not ā€œathlete versionā€. Let’s call it ā€œadventure editionā€ or Suunto Ambit (next gen) šŸ™‚ But probably won’t came true…

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                                      • mikekoski490M Offline
                                        mikekoski490 Bronze Member @suuntastic
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                                        @suuntastic Maybe! I think if they launched a watch without OHR, all the reviewers would be like '…and what’s with the bezel, price point, and WTF - no OHR!!! What was Suunto thinking!!! So 1998…"

                                        😬 😁 šŸ˜…

                                        Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                                        Current: Suunto Race Ti

                                        Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                                        Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                                          suuntastic Bronze Member @mikekoski490
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                                          @mikekoski490 unfortunately probably

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                                            @tomasbartko will wait for the ā€œgentlemanā€ edition/Suunto 10 in about 6 month. Will have all the SV features in S9PP size at a lower price point, :dreaming:

                                            @tomasbartko said in Suunto Vertical is here:

                                            Spot a difference… 😰

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