Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection

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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

@wmichi this is a nice discussion. We could not fix the issue as it’s in the firstbeat library. Due to that we are replacing all firstbeat data with our very soon by the end of the year. So hold on. Only this metric is buggered sometimes.

About all the other bugs we are on top of those. Update should come in a few weeks before July.

It’s much appreciated all the feedback here guys.

Super news! Bravo to the team!

suzzlo

Hi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos, really exiting news to ear that Suunto will move away from Firstbeat… Is there anything that can be share? Which metrics? Which watches?

BR

surfboomerang

@suzzlo said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

really exiting news to ear that Suunto will move away from Firstbeat

I agree but I forsee a lot of complains on this forum about the removal of Firstbeat. For most amateur athletes Firstbeat is, in their opnion, a guidence god. If it is not in the watch, it’s not a good watch.

Dante Mclalla

When following a preloaded course, the directions shown on the map are clear and correct but the advise of an incoming turn at the bottom of the screen is very often wrong as it wants you to take the exact opposite direction (ex. left turn when the map shows a turn on the right)…

EzioAuditore

@surfboomerang According to this guy (https://www.youtube.com/@TheQuantifiedScientist) all the garmin watches perform poorly when talking about sleep analysis, so this can be seen as a pros for removal the fb.

dombo

@Dante-Mclalla are you sure you are following the route in direction it was planned? this is known when you go reverse.

Dante Mclalla

@dombo I’m pretty sure as it did happen more than once. The route is right but there is just an inconsistency between the map and the advise at the bottom of the page of the incoming turn which is in the opposite direction!

isazi

@Dante-Mclalla never happened to me, unless going the opposite direction
The turn-by-turn directions are not from the map, are waypoints inserted by the app on the route itself based on the direction that you used at creation, i.e. from A to B.
Are you following a route that starts and ends in the same spot? If so, you are going the opposite direction

Egika

@Dante-Mclalla Is your route possibly a circular one?
If start and end point are close to each other I found that the watch tends to think I am going from end to start.
As the turn notifications are hard coded in the route information it will just show the information stored when approaching a turn, regardless the direction you are coming from.

I already filed a bug, so that with circular routes the watch will assume you start at the start.

Dante Mclalla

@Egika the start and end point are 2km far from each other. It may be correct your assumption, the TbT directions just suggest the shortest route to the end point which in that case was left instead of right…

isazi

@Dante-Mclalla if your route is not a loop, and you are going from A to B all the time, than the app is creating the wrong waypoints. Can you share an example route with this behavior?

gone troppo

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

This is fantastic news I cannot wait to see what suunto come up with. Hopefully they are working on algorithms to account for elevation gain vs heart rate to count towards V02max for those of us running in the mountains not in flat ground.

Dante Mclalla

@isazi yes sure, can you suggest how to?

isazi

@Dante-Mclalla send me a PM

wmichi

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks for the info, I am looking forward to Suuntos own implementation I am wondering why not everyone has those bugs (restarts). Until those are fixed, if there is any workaround (disabling some settings, whatever), let us know

Jugger

O2-widget have some font problem. On ”Happisaturaatio” last O drops to second line. Otherwise it’s working normally.

Egika

@Jugger Thx. There is the same or similar happening in other languages as well (German for example).
There is no hyphenation support in the firmware, so this can be resolved only if we come up with a shorter word.
If you have a suggestion I can forward it.

valdis830

@Kk2n-Kk Good luck there. I have a 3-year-old Vertix that ran out of barometer and many issues with the digital knob. They do not have tech support out of warranty. By another watch - 600€

Jugger

@Egika It seems two textlines are supported so:
Happi-
Saturaatio
Could make it on different lines if ”O” can already be on other line. In S9PP ”o2” logo was on top?

fluca

@surfboomerang To those who think they will miss firstbeat… just know that firstbeat is since a couple of year now property of garmin. So suunto is paying Garmin to have that crap in the end.
More importantly:deep learning is deep learning whatever name you put on top of it.
So stay assured Suunto will come up with physiological algorithm that will be as good or better than firstbeat’s.