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    • SimonS Offline
      Simon Bronze Member @Tieutieu
      last edited by Simon

      @Tieutieu I wanted to try it. I wasn’t sure if the 500 m scale or the missing details are issues for me.

      @isazi Thanks! Yeah, I’m sure the watch works for the majority. Would be terrible if not. But it still seems to have far more bugs than previous Suunto products.

      @Mitch9 I just mentioned the Smartphone map to express that the Vertical map is not just missing details, but it can be misleading, if not to say wrong.

      About the round trip: I was a bit confusing there :'-D Hard to explain. If you pass over the same part of the map several times, you can’t see the map there any more and neither can you see the planned route or the direction arrows. NOt a big issue. But a dotted line could be a better choice for the taken track.

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos For glaciers, the map needed some details like altitude values along the contour lines or names of huts and summits. It’s not a bug and not Suunto’s “fault”. The map is what it is, but it doesn’t work well as an emergency backup there. As a positive, the map movement is quite smooth and rotation when turning around is totally fluent, that’s cool - and that wouldn’t be possible with more details on it - given the current hardware.

      Is there a plan to increase the 500 m limit in the very near future?!?

      @lessthanmore To mention a few other issues I had: The heart rate intensity display doesn’t work well. The current HR is fine, but the values for the upper and lower zones are often wrong; sometimes they just say 0 or they are not visible at all. Weird! After soft reset/reboot, certain audio alarms are enabled, despite being disabled before. The compass was once suddenly totally off - and I don’t think I had any magnets on me that could have caused that. Then, during navigation, the watch sometimes gave the warning “You are off course”, when I wasn’t or just due to GPS-inaccuracy in a city. The screen immediately switched to “You are on course again”. Both screens are blocking view on the map for too long - or you have to press the middle button to dismiss them, which is annoying. Personally, I would so much love to disable these warnings altogether! But that’s a complaint I have since the Ambit 3 Peak … 😛

      S9P Ti - ex Altimax, A3P, SV Ti

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        Simon Bronze Member
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        Thank you all for your honest and kind feedback and advise! It is interesting to see that the watch does work flawlessly for some.

        S9P Ti - ex Altimax, A3P, SV Ti

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          babychai Silver Members @Simon
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          @Simon “You are off course” & immediately switch to “You are on course” happen few times to my S9P and Spartan Trainer when i go to hiking. So not only happen to SV.

          Now i’m wearing both watch S9P & SV for hiking. Those message are also appear both of my watch at the same time although i’m still on the right track. So i guess is a GPS accuracy issue 🤷‍♂️

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            boudaj @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
            As for maps, is there possibility to download different types of OSM maps except for those offered in Suunto app? There are different OSM maps with all kinds of specific details. It is possible to download them e. g. to Garmin watches.
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              mikekoski490 Bronze Member @babychai
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              @babychai said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

              @Simon “You are off course” & immediately switch to “You are on course” happen few times to my S9P and Spartan Trainer when i go to hiking. So not only happen to SV.

              It was also something that both my Garmin Fenix 6X did and Coros Vertix 2 as well. Suunto does it less, but those other 2 companies may have improved in the past year too.

              Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

              Current: Suunto Race Ti

              Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

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                Łukasz Szmigiel @boudaj
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                @boudaj I think it’s not a matter of maps but just different layer visibility and / or colors.

                S9PP 2.40.44

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                  boudaj @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                  All right. And can I download OSM maps with different layers visible to Vertical? I can do it with all kind of these OSM types at Garmin watch.

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                    Łukasz Szmigiel @boudaj
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                    @boudaj it depends on how it’s implemented by Suunto. I think there is just a base data layer and “skins” for it. Perhaps more than default ones can be added? Or there could be a simple generator in SA?

                    S9PP 2.40.44

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                      boudaj @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                      @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                      This is exactly my question, if someone knows it…

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                        isazi Moderator @boudaj
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                        @boudaj you cannot do anything at the moment, but as seen in recent surveys Suunto is looking at what people want with maps in the future. More layers is one of the options.

                        Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                          Sascha Domres Bronze Member @isazi
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                          @isazi well, I also have the impression that the Vertical is still very expandable. I’m not just talking about the maps. here is to criticize that it took me hours to download all of Germany… ( and yes my wifi is fast) . A trip to another state Cologne / NRW had the result that I could not see a map. Then i was back in Hessen IT works… In this respect, I cannot currently rely on whether the maps work outside of my state. Then the limitation to 500 m? I can’t see exactly where I am on a circuit. The watch only has one alarm in 2023 and the watch is anything but smooth. Apart from the fact that the clock has already hung up for me. Then functions such as body resources are simply implemented extremely poorly. A short unit immediately after getting up ensures that the resources can drop from 79% to 30%. After a treadmill training session I can’t calibrate the distance, etc… So there’s still some homework to be done… The design is cool and beautiful, but in my experience you can’t rely on the watch at the moment.

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                            MiniForklift Platinum Member
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                            That’s a bummer you’ve had a crap experience with yours. I upgraded to the SV from my S9B, although I also had a Garmin Enduro I was also semi-using just to see how they compared

                            Personally the SV is pretty much what I was hoping it would be, I’m lucky that I have no issues with maps or crashes. For me the maps/navigation features are awesome and a massive step up from the S9B where I was basically just following a blue line; I travel a lot for work and have used them quite a bit already to head out into places I have never been before. The only thing that didn’t work well for me was the OHR, unfortunately it’s unusable (as it was with my S9B), but I have a chest HR strap so whilst disappointing it’s not a particularly big deal

                            Hopefully in the future Suunto is able to roll out some other goodies like HRV which I found to be quite useful on the Enduro 👍

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                              fluca Silver Members @Simon
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                              @Simon The degradation in reliability we all are suffering is nothing but the desperate try from suunto to keep up the development speed of Garmin. Suunto has decided to ‘Garminize’ itself. This is what the market wants. So if you suffer from suunto’s garminization do not go garmin. If you want reliable watch never by a watch newly released.
                              I have had suuntos, garmins, polars over the years and this is the best advice I can give.
                              Another advice: buy from Amazon with prime. You will have one full month to use and test your device and eventually give it back.
                              That’s what I did with my vertical and currently I am on S9pp.
                              I think I will buy Vertical when the software stabilize, the price drops etc… in a 6/9 months.

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                                freeheeler @fluca
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                                @fluca
                                but you will miss the excitement we all celebrate before FW updates?! 🤷 😜
                                ok, you can still celebrate with us with S9PP 👍

                                living sideways

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                                  Kowalski Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                  About the details on the maps it also depends on open street maps.

                                  I mapped all the area I went and all the forest track to a great level of details and it was so satisfying to see it appears in suunto app 2 or 3 weeks later.

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                                    fluca Silver Members @freeheeler
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                                    @freeheeler Nope!, actually I had double excitement. Because when new FW came up I had the Vertical AND the 9pp.
                                    Reality is that S9PP is a fantastic watch. Vertical is a superb watch. I was one of the lucky one experiencing no problem at all.

                                    I gave the Vertical back because I do not like having spare things sitting in the shelf. I want to use what I own, and I am not the kind of guy swapping watches every two-three day.
                                    I could have sold the S9PP and keep the Vertical. But in the end, I decided not to. It is too good and will make me spare some money for the moment.
                                    May be in the future I will take another Vertical. May be a smaller, middle sized Vertical that will be out in the future(?).

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                                      Łukasz Szmigiel @Kowalski
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                                      @Kowalski yup, it’s easy to do with osm web interface, especially when GPX from watch gets loaded into osm.

                                      S9PP 2.40.44

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                                        Tieutieu Platinum Member
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                                        I’m sorry guys that you experimented such issues, but your experience is not the one I have.
                                        Fully happy, confident and astonished with my SV !

                                        Suunto’s devices at home :
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                                        Suunto Race S
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                                          A Former User
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                                          It’s weird that for some the watch works perfectly and for some not, I’m afraid this could be a hardware related thing 😞

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                                            Tieutieu Platinum Member @Guest
                                            last edited by Tieutieu

                                            @Dan-Cantir said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                                            It’s weird that for some the watch works perfectly and for some not, I’m afraid this could be a hardware related thing 😞

                                            Not afraid ! People expressing here are mostly people with issues ; it is important to improve and solve ; but it probably represents just a few among of all SV users.

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                                            Suunto Race S
                                            S9pp titanium sand
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