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      gone troppo Bronze Member @trailcafe
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      My maps here in Australia whilst taking bout 10 hours to download worked great recently on an off trail hike and got us out of trouble many times including leading us out of the rainforest at night with headlights everyone in our group loved my watch by then end

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        EzioAuditore Gold Members @gone troppo
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        Black maps only in the beginning but I’ve been gifted with 4 crashes mid activity. One with the latest hot fix 😞

        Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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          A Former User
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          I’ve shelved the Vertical for now, as I find it too unreliable. It also gives me the chance to let it drain completely for once. 😁

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            fluca Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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            @Brad_Olwin I agree 100% with you because what you say make sense for me. But it seems to me is not related to my post you are replying or am I missing something?

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              zhang965 @fluca
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              @fluca said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

              Brad_Olwin I agree 100% with you because what you say make sense for me. But it seems to me is not related to my post you are replying or am I missing something?

              That’s normal, dude, it’s his style,

              Welcome to Suunto community

              Winners Wear Winners

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                A Former User @Brad_Olwin
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                @Brad_Olwin said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                @Sascha-Domres I have tested this in six different regions so far in the US and will test in Europe next week. So, I think somewhat isolated but clearly some regions or some type of watch usage is an issue.

                Or yours is the one that works hehe

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                • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @fluca
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                  @fluca This was your statement about degradation in reliability and chasing Garmin by Suunto.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @trailcafe
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                    @trailcafe No. here for work and a very short visit.

                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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                      @Ilya-Sul said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                      I’ve shelved the Vertical for now, as I find it too unreliable. It also gives me the chance to let it drain completely for once. 😁

                      This should not be happening. I did not have a single crash on your firmware version and that included a 34h race. Please send logs to Suunto immediately after a crash and PM me with Suunto app username and time/date logs were sent

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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                        @André-Faria said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                        @Brad_Olwin said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                        @Sascha-Domres I have tested this in six different regions so far in the US and will test in Europe next week. So, I think somewhat isolated but clearly some regions or some type of watch usage is an issue.

                        Or yours is the one that works hehe

                        I have 2 Verticals. Neither have serious issues but one is older hardware and has some problems specifically related to the hardware. However, no crashing or map issues.

                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                          A Former User @Brad_Olwin
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                          @Brad_Olwin said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                          one is older hardware

                          I’m sorry, just curious, what do you mean by “older hardware”?

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                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Guest
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                            @Dan-Cantir Prior to release.

                            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                              fluca Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                              @Brad_Olwin I mean, I owns a S9PP which was seriously buggy (and it is yet), I’ve owned a SV form 1 month and it was buggy for some (not for me) at release. I have been with suunto since 2014. Since then, at release, suunto whatches just used work. Now we have a dedicated tread for bugs.
                              We also have a (kind of) beta program to see if the software is good enough to be released in production. This is all new for suunto and similar to what garmin does.
                              Something has shifted. I am not saying is necessarily bad. I am not saying it is suunto fault.
                              To stay in business, you have to play that business’ rules. In this business Garmin has 30% share, suunto in not listed. Garmin make rules, suunto follows.
                              This should not be taken as an offense. It is what it is.

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                                Egika Platinum Member @fluca
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                                @fluca to correct you:
                                I had a Suunto Spartan Copper back in 2015/1016 which resetted on me during a triathlon 😉

                                The situation changes with more complexity. Like what car companies have gone through at the end of the last century. They dealt with it using HIL automated testing.

                                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                  zhang965 @fluca
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                                  @fluca said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                                  Brad_Olwin I mean, I owns a S9PP which was seriously buggy (and it is yet), I’ve owned a SV form 1 month and it was buggy for some (not for me) at release. I have been with suunto since 2014. Since then, at release, suunto whatches just used work. Now we have a dedicated tread for bugs.
                                  We also have a (kind of) beta program to see if the software is good enough to be released in production. This is all new for suunto and similar to what garmin does.
                                  Something has shifted. I am not saying is necessarily bad. I am not saying it is suunto fault.
                                  To stay in business, you have to play that business’ rules. In this business Garmin has 30% share, suunto in not listed. Garmin make rules, suunto follows.
                                  This should not be taken as an offense. It is what it is.

                                  Come on dude, it’s just a watch, take easy.

                                  I’m very happy with vertical now, I don’t use s+ app, don’t use map, don’t use OHR. It can perfectly run without any issue for a 10k run.

                                  Winners Wear Winners

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                                    A Former User @zhang965
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                                    @zhang965 said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                                    @fluca said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                                    Brad_Olwin I mean, I owns a S9PP which was seriously buggy (and it is yet), I’ve owned a SV form 1 month and it was buggy for some (not for me) at release. I have been with suunto since 2014. Since then, at release, suunto whatches just used work. Now we have a dedicated tread for bugs.
                                    We also have a (kind of) beta program to see if the software is good enough to be released in production. This is all new for suunto and similar to what garmin does.
                                    Something has shifted. I am not saying is necessarily bad. I am not saying it is suunto fault.
                                    To stay in business, you have to play that business’ rules. In this business Garmin has 30% share, suunto in not listed. Garmin make rules, suunto follows.
                                    This should not be taken as an offense. It is what it is.

                                    Come on dude, it’s just a watch, take easy.

                                    I’m very happy with vertical now, I don’t use s+ app, don’t use map, don’t use OHR. It can perfectly run without any issue for a 10k run.

                                    Finally you got that ambit back!
                                    Sorry couldn’t resist!
                                    Enjoy your watch outdoors.

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                                      zhang965 @Guest
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                                      @André-Faria said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                                      @zhang965 said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                                      @fluca said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                                      Brad_Olwin I mean, I owns a S9PP which was seriously buggy (and it is yet), I’ve owned a SV form 1 month and it was buggy for some (not for me) at release. I have been with suunto since 2014. Since then, at release, suunto whatches just used work. Now we have a dedicated tread for bugs.
                                      We also have a (kind of) beta program to see if the software is good enough to be released in production. This is all new for suunto and similar to what garmin does.
                                      Something has shifted. I am not saying is necessarily bad. I am not saying it is suunto fault.
                                      To stay in business, you have to play that business’ rules. In this business Garmin has 30% share, suunto in not listed. Garmin make rules, suunto follows.
                                      This should not be taken as an offense. It is what it is.

                                      Come on dude, it’s just a watch, take easy.

                                      I’m very happy with vertical now, I don’t use s+ app, don’t use map, don’t use OHR. It can perfectly run without any issue for a 10k run.

                                      Finally you got that ambit back!
                                      Sorry couldn’t resist!
                                      Enjoy your watch outdoors.

                                      No, vertical cannot be ambit, vertical has no recovery test.

                                      Winners Wear Winners

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                                        Egika Platinum Member @zhang965
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                                        @zhang965 maybe it will get some recovery metric with the next update?

                                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                        • zhang965Z Offline
                                          zhang965 @Egika
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                                          @Egika said in Conclusions about the Suunto Vertical:

                                          @zhang965 maybe it will get some recovery metric with the next update?

                                          Yes, maybe it will not crash with the next update.

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                                          Winners Wear Winners

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                                            Egika Platinum Member @zhang965
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                                            @zhang965 has your Vertical crashed?

                                            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                            Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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