No-Map-Problem

laurent92m

Hello,

Vertical purchased 2 weeks ago (before reading pbs on this forum…) and yes map is a pb also for me.
I managed only once to have PARIS map displayed correctly on my watch after several trials and since then, impossible to use again the same map !

Do we have a clear fix for it or not ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Laurent

zhang965

@laurent92m said in No-Map-Problem:

Hello,

Vertical purchased 2 weeks ago (before reading pbs on this forum…) and yes map is a pb also for me.
I managed only once to have PARIS map displayed correctly on my watch after several trials and since then, impossible to use again the same map !

Do we have a clear fix for it or not ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Laurent

return the watch

Brad_Olwin

@laurent92m Appears to be intermittent. Have you tried deleting and redownloading the map? Let me know if it continues not to work. I am going to bring this up with Suunto and see what they say. I see too many map issues here.

I recently traveled through 5 US states outside of my home state. I had one time a black map but the day before and day after it worked. Unclear why once the map did not show.

laurent92m

Hello Brad,

Thanks for your reply.
Yesterday afternoon, I did the following:
1 - Soft reset of the watch ( Press 12 sec top right button)
2 - Calibrate compass

And since that I have been able to use Paris map during several activities and also open map without selecting first one sport.

One thought: as soon as you add a map, you might have to go throught steps 1 & 2 above , otherwise maps will not work including the ones which were working fine before…

Have a nice weekend
Laurent

Brad_Olwin

@laurent92m said in No-Map-Problem:

Hello Brad,

Thanks for your reply.
Yesterday afternoon, I did the following:
1 - Soft reset of the watch ( Press 12 sec top right button)
2 - Calibrate compass

And since that I have been able to use Paris map during several activities and also open map without selecting first one sport.

One thought: as soon as you add a map, you might have to go throught steps 1 & 2 above , otherwise maps will not work including the ones which were working fine before…

Have a nice weekend
Laurent

Let me know what happens and if you see the black grid again post here or PM me with coordinates and I can send a note to Suunto. You should not have to soft reset after downloading a map. Glad this is working.

Likarnik

@Brad_Olwin do you know if this is solved in next firmware update? I planed 250km bike ride yesterday and I had terrible experience with navigation. Sometimes map was shown, sometimes only part of it, sometimes no map. Sometimes zoom in/out helped and sometimes not. It’s completely unreliable. It was an out and back (with loop on end) route, so watch didn’t know in which direction I was going. When it said turn left, maybe it was left and maybe it was right. Most confusing was right/left at fork, ok, I’ll check the map and of course there was no map Did a lot of wrong turns, especially when I was in towns (first time there), where there are a lot of crossroads. I can not send you coordinates, because my phone can not store so much information Map was Friuli-Venezia Giulia in northern Italy, but this happened also on others, yesterday I really needed navigation that’s why I’m so pissed off.

@Likarnik

I just reset my watch to try to fix my GPS issues and now I too suffer from the no map problem. Restarts and reinstalling maps didn’t help. Might have to reset the watch again. It’s just been a great experience so far.

I planned to take the Vertical on my upcoming holiday, but I don’t think so. Garmin it is, yet again.

zhang965

@Likarnik said in No-Map-Problem:

Brad_Olwin do you know if this is solved in next firmware update? I planed 250km bike ride yesterday and I had terrible experience with navigation. Sometimes map was shown, sometimes only part of it, sometimes no map. Sometimes zoom in/out helped and sometimes not. It’s completely unreliable. It was an out and back (with loop on end) route, so watch didn’t know in which direction I was going. When it said turn left, maybe it was left and maybe it was right. Most confusing was right/left at fork, ok, I’ll check the map and of course there was no map Did a lot of wrong turns, especially when I was in towns (first time there), where there are a lot of crossroads. I can not send you coordinates, because my phone can not store so much information Map was Friuli-Venezia Giulia in northern Italy, but this happened also on others, yesterday I really needed navigation that’s why I’m so pissed off.

It’s the solution I found for myself:
Screenshot_2023-08-23-20-23-10-99_64ef5fc2000c1caa954c114bb372e1d5.jpg

mikekoski490

@zhang965 Excellent! Glad you will be heading over to the Garmin Forum now! Garmin users complain about their devices and Garmins lack of support there so your great wit will be a welcome ray of sunshine I’m sure.

isazi

@Likarnik I have not seen the black grid on the testing firmware for a long time. Unfortunately, I have also never seen it on my production Vertical, so it may just be that the places where I travel have no issues. Anyway, from the bug-tracking system that is accessible to external testers, I see that developers fixed bugs that were causing the “black grid of death”. So, hopefully this is also a thing of the past.

Likarnik

@isazi Hope so. Also hope we don’t have to wait until end of the year to push this to production.

BTW, I created a route in Komoot, is this their fault or suuntos?

This is from SA (pushed from Komoot). perfect overlay (as I said, out and back route):

isazi

@Likarnik said in No-Map-Problem:

@isazi Hope so. Also hope we don’t have to wait until end of the year to push this to production.

I hope the same, but have no clue about the release.

BTW, I created a route in Komoot, is this their fault or suuntos?

Strange, could be the watch rendering, or the fact that the route is simplified (points pruning) during transfer to watch.

@isazi I don’t see the black grid of death but a white background with a few brown lines and nothing else.

isazi

@Ilya-Sul never seen that, can you share a picture?

@isazi Yes, need to get home first, though.

The brown lines were also present when the map was displayed correctly (before the reset). I don’t know if they’re supposed to be contour lines or something…

I already restarted the watch, re-downloaded the maps and reset the SV several times. Nothing seems to help.

laurent92m

@Brad_Olwin

Hello Brad,

So, this week-end,I moved for the first time with the watch to the Nantes region and the map (Pays de la Loire) was not working. ( black grid on the watch).
I applied the 2 steps ( soft reset + calibrate compass) and then the map was available on the watch.
Moving back to Paris, Paris map was hopefully still working fine with the watch…

The coming weekend, I will use the watch for the first time in the Alps, going through 3 differents Suunto maps and I expect to see only the first map to work after having done the usual soft reset + calibrate compass before starting…

Will let you know the result in a week time

Have a nice week
Laurent

Brad_Olwin

@laurent92m I have now had the black grid problem with field test firmware as well. I reported this and am going to test my production watch as well. Keep me posted on this as I will aggressively pursue it. I am also not happy when this happens but it is darn near impossible to reproduce.

@isazi

That’s all that shows up. Needless to say, that’s not what my hometown looks like.

@Ilya-Sul

I scrolled around until I ended up in a different federal state (took some time) and guess what, the map for the adjoining downloaded region shows up. It seems like the map for my federal state in Germany is broken. Great.

Egika

@Ilya-Sul which state is it?