No-Map-Problem
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@Brad_Olwin I have suffered the “black grid” problem only one time. I don’t know if it has relationship with the problem but before I started the activity with the “no map” issue, the HR widget graph was not working. It seems that the watch stopped “painting” the HR graph several hours before.
So perhaps the watch runs out of memory or something like that and is not able to “paint” some graphs and the map.
After reset the watch frees memory and the issue is “solved”.
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@jjpaz Same experience for me. When I just got the watch I installed some maps. Occasionally I had some semi black grid issues. Only some tiles were missing.
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@Ilya-Sul I contacted support. Support is gonna forward my issue to engineering. Let’s see. I hope the problem’s with the map itself. Otherwise, I don’t have much hope that the issue will be fixed before my upcoming vacation.
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@Ilya-Sul
Hello,
One thought: as soon as you add a map and before using it for the first time (meaning you are inside this area physically with the watch) you might have to go through steps 1 & 2 below:1 - Soft reset of the watch (Press 12 sec top right button)
2 - Calibrate compassAt least, it is the case for me…
BR
Laurent -
Appreciate the help.
Doesn’t help, though. I already tried all the regular trouble shooting options. I’ve calibrated and reset this watch enough times already.
Support wanted me to factory reset the watch again (after having done so 3 times already) and I respectfully declined. I’m not willing to invest so much of my free time here.
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@Ilya-Sul
In your case, it looks more like a “bad map” issue, rather than “no map” issue.
You seems to see something (but not what you expect ), while no map issue is really black screen with white grid.
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Yes, it’s some part of the map for sure. But it might as well be no map. It did work when I set up the watch for the first time. All I can do now is wait.
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Black grid problem during Monday’s MCC race. Wanting to avoid a crash during the race, I stayed on the screen with the elevation. Otherwise, the waypoints worked fine.
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After about 2 months no issues, had the no map problem on a local trail run today. After the run, I synced with the app and checked again after syncing but still no map - just the black grid (worked fine yesterday though). For this time and the previous time, my solution has been:
- Power off/power on
- Sync with app
- Maps show again right away
I did this before my big backpacking trip just in case, and hit ‘Map’ before the hike just to make sure the map was rendering no problem, and it was fine the entire trip.
Just my experience, but it seems like some kind of memory issue - like wherever the maps are being stored is competing with other things like workouts etc and cant load, so need to clear out the storage or cache occasionally.
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So, it’s just the map that I had originally downloaded on my SV before I performed a factory reset that doesn’t display correctly anymore. Support hasn’t gotten back to me yet and I don’t know if the agent really escalated my issue to engineering or not. There hasn’t been any e-mail confirmation. It’s so frustrating. I really want to like this watch, but it’s getting harder every day.
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@Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:
So, it’s just the map that I had originally downloaded on my SV before I performed a factory reset that doesn’t display correctly anymore. Support hasn’t gotten back to me yet and I don’t know if the agent really escalated my issue to engineering or not. There hasn’t been any e-mail confirmation. It’s so frustrating. I really want to like this watch, but it’s getting harder every day.
Dumb question forthcoming…you’ve deleted and redownloaded the problem map? Results in the same behavior?
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@stromdiddily Yes and even after several factory resets.
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Just for the record since I believe Suunto is aware of this issue.
Today I suffered from the no-map issue since a long time. Just started an activity and selected the map. All black tiles.
I discarded the activity, rebooted the watch and started a new activity. The map is working again. -
Not helping, but fortunately I read this thread just before selling my fenix 6X and buying a Vertical. Since map is one of the main primary function I use in French Mountains for trail trainng or to discover new places to run around, will keep the 6X and wisely wait.
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I also had the no-map issue 3 or 4 times since may.
The soft reset never worked, but the “stop the watch”, and “restart” always solved.
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@Matteiva
I’ve never had issues either and I know of so many users who don’t have maps issue nor crashes.
of course you can be unlucky but it’s the same risk with buying a laptop, phone, bike, car… -
@Ilya-Sul
Still radio silence from Suunto Support, even after emailing them again. I can’t even sell the watch now, since the problem might be with the watch itself or the some remaining map data fragments that cannot be wiped from the watch’s internal storage (the factory reset doesn’t reset the fw version, so it’s no completely clean slate).
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@Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:
@Ilya-Sul
Still radio silence from Suunto Support, even after emailing them again. I can’t even sell the watch now, since the problem might be with the watch itself or the some remaining map data fragments that cannot be wiped from the watch’s internal storage (the factory reset doesn’t reset the fw version, so it’s no completely clean slate).
did you pay your watch with a cashback service?
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@Ilya-Sul said in No-Map-Problem:
@Ilya-Sul
Still radio silence from Suunto Support, even after emailing them again. I can’t even sell the watch now, since the problem might be with the watch itself or the some remaining map data fragments that cannot be wiped from the watch’s internal storage (the factory reset doesn’t reset the fw version, so it’s no completely clean slate).
I don’t understand : if your watch needs to be replaced the support should already have asked you to send the watch.
I have dealed a couple a times the past years with them and they always were very reactives (A3P baro sensor replacement twice).
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@Tieutieu I don’t know IF it has to be replaced, because support just told me they’d pass on the info. That’s it.
I emailed support them asking if a ticket has been created / if I could exchange the watch, because it isn’t working correctly. No reply.
The only thing I know is that I’m not going to take this watch on holiday, because it’s useless to me without a working map of the region.