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    • MarynM Offline
      Maryn Silver Members @jjpaz
      last edited by

      @jjpaz today I had a 20% drop over night. New device.

      Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race, Edge 530, Vantage V, Suunto Wings, Polar H10&Verity Sense

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      • EzioAuditoreE Offline
        EzioAuditore Gold Members @Maryn
        last edited by

        @Marcin-Byrtek I think the first few charges the battery ‘calibrates’ and the 20% drop is not actually ‘true’.

        Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
        Suunto Wing

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        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
          Brad_Olwin Moderator @jjpaz
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          @jjpaz It is possible the battery was lower than indicated, the touch was turned off. When very low these types of batteries can deplete quickly. So this may not be a bug as your watch may have shut down once on the charger.

          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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          • jjpazJ Offline
            jjpaz Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
            last edited by

            @Brad_Olwin It didn’t turn off, it restarted. I didn’t touch the watch. And battery level when charging started from the level it was before restarting, 18%.
            So, it’s not a bug but watch didn’t show the correct battery level? Is that right? So, according to this, I can’t trust the battery level the watch shows. Perfect!
            I think the answer is easier: there was some issue that cause the touchscreen not working and the reboot.

            Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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            • Brad_OlwinB Offline
              Brad_Olwin Moderator @jjpaz
              last edited by

              @jjpaz Could be. I’m not sure. Was just a suggestion.

              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              • mikekoski490M Offline
                mikekoski490 Bronze Member
                last edited by

                Just thought I would pop this in here, as I know some people have said “Im thinking of switching to Polar!” Just to put the big ecosystem of all watches have issues in perspective. Taken from the Polar users FB page:

                Users of Polar Vantage V & V2 and V3.
                · 2h ·
                3 times during training my new V3 crashed (needed to setup as new device afterwards) - App and watch on newest release. Anybody experienced similar issues?

                Past Suuntos: X-Lander/Observer/T6/X9/X10/X6HR/CORES/Ambits/Spartan/9P/9PP Ti/Vertical Ti

                Current: Suunto Race Ti

                Past other GPS watches: Polar Vantage V; Garmin 6X Pro Solar; Coros Vertix 2

                Suunto App running on Google Pixel 8/Android 14

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                • ChrisAC Offline
                  ChrisA Platinum Member @mikekoski490
                  last edited by

                  @mikekoski490 Polar watches were quite basic, relating to features (even less watch faces, no loadable apps, only four data fields and limited data to display etc.) But (at least mine) were running extremely stable! Could be, that with more and more features added, chances raise, that more and more things could go wrong. I recall somebody with IT background here in the forum saying, that adding a little bit here and a little bit there might sound easy to do, but isn’t so easy in reality 🤔.

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                  • jjpazJ Offline
                    jjpaz Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by

                    @Brad_Olwin Thank you for the suggestion.
                    I explained the issue just for help if anybody suffers same behaviour.
                    For me, in case of that, is just a small bug because it hasn’t happened during activity.
                    “During activity” crashed are the worst issues (only happened once in more than 5 months using SV)

                    Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                    • jjpazJ Offline
                      jjpaz Bronze Member @ChrisA
                      last edited by

                      @ChrisA Sure. New Suunto watches are becoming less stable since SuuntoApps inclusion and since maps inclusion. New features working together can cause random behaviours.
                      In that case the optimal way is to be able to detect and correct that issues and fast.
                      Let’s see if the promised software update is worth waiting for.

                      Suunto T3D, Suunto Spartan Trainer, Suunto Spartan Ultra (retired), Suunto 9 Baro (retired), Suunto 9 Peak (retired), Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race S.

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                      • inkognitoI Offline
                        inkognito Platinum Member
                        last edited by inkognito

                        Cute little bug (or perhaps take this as suggestion for improvement):
                        When I use sunrise/sunset field on the “altitude-chart” watchface, it automatically switches to sunrise field after sunset. This is pretty cool. But it shows “today’s sunrise”, not “next sunrise”. Before midnight, you are looking at the outdated sunrise time which can be several minutes behind/ahead…
                        E.g.
                        Yesterday at 23:59, it showed sunrise 7:04 (= outdated one)
                        Two minutes later at 0:01, it showed 7:06.

                        Could this be improved to always show the next sunrise? Nitpicking, I know 😄

                        SV: fingers crossed :D
                        S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
                        Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
                        Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto!

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                        • pilleusP Offline
                          pilleus
                          last edited by pilleus

                          Style selection “dark” in map settings does not differ from “outdoor” in my Vertical. Maps are working fine and without problems though. Reboot or soft reset does not resolve it.

                          Just to report it, I didn’t read all the topics about offline maps … 👓

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                          Suunto Vertical Black Lime
                          Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                          Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                          • EgikaE Offline
                            Egika Platinum Member @pilleus
                            last edited by

                            @pilleus said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                            Style selection “dark” in map settings does not differ from “outdoor” in my Vertical. Maps are working fine and without problems though. Reboot or soft reset does not resolve it.

                            Just to report it, I didn’t read all the topics about offline maps … 👓

                            thank you!
                            actually the first time I hear this. Is it he same after a reboot of the watch (and finally after deleting and re-downloading the respective map?

                            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                            Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                            • pilleusP Offline
                              pilleus @Egika
                              last edited by pilleus

                              @Egika

                              I may be assuming something wrong … the only difference between “dark” to “outdoor” is a light darker rendering of the colors. I can see it when I zoom out to 500 m. For me “dark” means “black with white streets and dark coloured areas”.

                              The downloaded tile is okay and a reboot does not change anything.

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                              Suunto Vertical Black Lime
                              Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                              Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                              • EgikaE Offline
                                Egika Platinum Member @pilleus
                                last edited by

                                @pilleus
                                Do I understand that you do indeed see differences?

                                the difference between Outdoor and Dark on Vertical indeed is not like inverted display. Streets are white in both modes.
                                Just other details rendered differently:

                                • trails are dark in Outdoor and light in Dark
                                • Background is lighter in Outdoor and darker in Dark
                                • buildings are dark in Outdoor and light in Dark
                                • water bodies are darker in Dark

                                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                • pilleusP Offline
                                  pilleus @Egika
                                  last edited by pilleus

                                  @Egika

                                  I can see differences if I know where these are …

                                  1 and 2 in “outdoor”
                                  3 and 4 in “dark”

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                                  Suunto Vertical Black Lime
                                  Suunto 9 Peak Pro Black
                                  Suunto Spartan Ultra Stealth Titanium

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                                  • LitchiMonsterL Offline
                                    LitchiMonster Bronze Member @LitchiMonster
                                    last edited by

                                    @LitchiMonster the intensity zone screen still does not work properly with latest firmware, as described in my previous post, if anyone was wondering 🙂

                                    Suunto 9 Baro black
                                    Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar

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                                    • Michaël POINTEAUM Offline
                                      Michaël POINTEAU
                                      last edited by Michaël POINTEAU

                                      So I believe we can call it a bug.

                                      Laps are not reachable on watch activity logs for activities before the last update (2.30.26).

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                                      • EgikaE Offline
                                        Egika Platinum Member @Michaël POINTEAU
                                        last edited by

                                        @Michaël-POINTEAU this is not really a bug, as it is by design.
                                        Activities completed before a firmware update are somehow compressed. This comes with laps being not available and also the graph in the summary screen does disappear in the log book in the watch.

                                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                        • Mff73M Offline
                                          Mff73 @Michaël POINTEAU
                                          last edited by

                                          @Michaël-POINTEAU said in Suunto Vertical: Bug Collection:

                                          So I believe we can call it a bug.

                                          Laps are not reachable on watch activity logs for activities before the last update (2.30.26).

                                          as @Egika wrote : it always has been like this : after a FW update, details of past activities in watch logbook are no more available.

                                          but, another question comes to me :
                                          @Egika , with the new change where activities are stored in emmc, will the situation still be the same ? (details remaining after FW update)

                                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                          Suunto Vertical all black
                                          Wife : S9PP
                                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                          • Michaël POINTEAUM Offline
                                            Michaël POINTEAU @Mff73
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                                            @Mff73 weird. With my Ambit 3 peak I don’t remember this.

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