Software update 2.30.32

[Theo Lakerveld]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is there any info about the sleep tracking (awake time during sleep) bug. Does this update deal with that?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Theo-Lakerveld there are sleep improvements. Not sure if it will solve it for you though.

[General_Witt]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Will the custom sport modes be reset after the update? (I might start crying)

[SuuntoR]

I also wonder if the data sync between watch and SA is fixed now (different values between watch and the app on the ctl/atl/tsb/tss values)? Really hope so, this was one of the most annoying bugs. Would try that myself with short run but covid19 has another opinion on that

Also still to the future whislist that did not come with this update: during the night if do not disturb is on and the display is shut down, please make it possible to check the time without the whole screen activating to full brightness. For example upper or lower key would give a screen like in aod power saving mode or something like that.

Thanks for keeping your “promise” on November update, will have to explore more on the improvements

[Mff73]

@General_Witt said in Software update 2.30.32:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Will the custom sport modes be reset after the update? (I might start crying)

i don’t know for the race, but since my spartan (and then S9P, S9PP and now SV), if update is going normally (no bug), then custom sports modes are kept as-is.

[gizmo]

@General_Witt No, everything is on its place

[Patrick Löffler 0]

Yeah! Thanks! Some unexpected improvements. Also some that are extra to the release notes: E.g.: The date is now also fixed. It displays DD/MM now.

[gizmo]

@General_Witt said in Software update 2.30.32:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Will the custom sport modes be reset after the update? (I might start crying)

No, everything is on its place

[gizmo]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Software update 2.30.32:

My first impressions:

Faster user interface - the improvement is visible
Improved stability
Improved GNSS accuracy with updated GNSS firmware
Improved raise to wake - the improvement is very great

[Mads Hintz-Madsen]

Older watch faces now also seem to use pixel shifting in always-on mode to mitigate potential burn-in effects

[General_Witt]

It appears like the weather widget is still bugged (small weather icon on the left of the widget missing).

[mamertino1984]

This was a problem that support was aware of… but but but…

[General_Witt]

Tilt the wrist to activate mode is now absolutely brilliant! Very responsive.

[Luís Pinto]

@General_Witt Race it’s now a solid product!

[gizmo]

@Luís-Pinto said in Software update 2.30.32:

@General_Witt Race it’s now a solid product!

Unfortunately, there is still very poor heart rate reading. I hope Suunto is working on it…

[tiago]

@gizmo well I went for a run for the first time without chest strap,I always use chest strap,in my Fênix 7 solar,955 and on previous watches I owned, because most of the watch in high intensity workouts don’t work properly,and even on steady runs if you have some hills tend to lag a bit to rise or down the HR. I tried to confirm if the statement of people of this forum about unreliable HR from Suunto Race is true. I took my Garmin forerunner 955 in right wrist and Suunto Race on the left,10 kms in both watches,05:27 pace average,139 bpm with a maximum of 149 on both,so for me is accurate,works fine. But again,if people want accuracy on HR readings make like i do, always use chest strap,is the only way.

[gizmo]

@tiago said in Software update 2.30.32:

@gizmo well I went for a run for the first time without chest strap,I always use chest strap,in my Fênix 7 solar,955 and on previous watches I owned, because most of the watch in high intensity workouts don’t work properly,and even on steady runs if you have some hills tend to lag a bit to rise or down the HR. I tried to confirm if the statement of people of this forum about unreliable HR from Suunto Race is true. I took my Garmin forerunner 955 in right wrist and Suunto Race on the left,10 kms in both watches,05:27 pace average,139 bpm with a maximum of 149 on both,so for me is accurate,works fine. But again,if people want accuracy on HR readings make like i do, always use chest strap,is the only way.

I disagree with you, because Garmin 935/945/955, Fenix 6/7, Coros Pace 3, Apex PRO, Apple watches indicate the heart rate so precisely that an HR belt is not needed for regular running. In Race and Vertical it’s much worse. The WHR in these watches is so inaccurate and unstable that it is not suitable for any sport or even for measuring sleep parameters.
I agree that Race and Vertical are great watches, but the WHR is significantly inferior in terms of quality. I still believe that this problem will be fixed with new software. If not, I will have to sell my Race and go back to Garmin or Coros.

[Brad_Olwin]

@gizmo said in Software update 2.30.32:

@tiago said in Software update 2.30.32:
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I disagree with you, because Garmin 935/945/955, Fenix 6/7, Coros Pace 3, Apex PRO, Apple watches indicate the heart rate so precisely that an HR belt is not needed for regular running. In Race and Vertical it’s much worse. The WHR in these watches is so inaccurate and unstable that it is not suitable for any sport or even for measuring sleep parameters.
I agree that Race and Vertical are great watches, but the WHR is significantly inferior in terms of quality. I still believe that this problem will be fixed with new software. If not, I will have to sell my Race and go back to Garmin or Coros.

I completely disagree, my Apple Watch Ultra and the past Epix 2 were not accurate enough to use without a chest strap. I have the data where both are worn together. I have never owned Coros so I don’t know. Apparently you have owned them all since you state this as a fact? Sorry but from what we see here OHR is different for different individuals. The underlying biology for detecting HR are radically different for the strap and any optical no matter where located.

[tiago]

@gizmo if you read what i said,I don’t told 955 or fenix 7 was not accurate, they are accurate enough in steady runs. On intervals is hit and miss. Sometimes work,others not. Thats why i use chest strap. If I don’t considered the 955 accurate on steady runs,I won’t compared with the Suunto Race, what i said was today in my run, Suunto Race and forerunner 955 using the OHR get the same readings,137 bpm in both with a maximum of 149 in both. In my point of view,is accurate. But we all know OHR for some people works fine,for others not,so I’m only sharing my experience.

[gizmo]

@tiago if you read what i said… all the watches I wrote about are a level better at reading heart rate for steady runs and you can rely on them. Race and Vertical are unreliable, I did about 30 steady, easy runs in various conditions, using different straps and none of the measurements were stable and reliable. In short, WHR in Race and Vertical is currently useless. If the watch sometimes shows the true HR value, and most of the time it shows the wrong value, then it is completely useless. If the watch calculates a lot of parameters based on such a useless reading, then these parameters are also useless.
The navigation is great, the screen is excellent, the compass is incredible, the battery is amazing, but the WHR sucks. That’s the truth
If Suunto doesn’t perform a miracle and improve WHR, unfortunately I don’t predict a great future for these watches.