Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update

Iggge

@Likarnik i am not pressing any buttons (what I am aware of)

jannis

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen thank you! Almost, as this is the average heart rate. I wish they would show the minimum heart rate for a longer time period than just the last 7 days.

SuperFlo75

@Likarnik I don‘t press any Button during the night, because I‘m afraid this could let the watch think I want to get up…

Mff73

No button press this night (i didn’t fall ), and 5h29 awaken time.
So, nothing new.
Next week i will try to sleep with SV + S9PP and see.

Dušan Ković

This is second night after the update. I think the sleep tracking improved. Last night was spot on.

We will see in the next few nights how it will work, but it looks like it works well.

Mads Hintz-Madsen

@Dušan-Ković I think that you are talking about the Race. This thread is for the Vertical which uses different algorithm. Just wanted to point this out to avoid any confusion

Iggge

This time i think The watch actually got it 90% right ️
Only thing that is wrong is when I went to sleep. It’s about 30-45 min wrong. But this is acceptable for me.
This night i actually did put The watch on my under arm, and it seems to have made the trick.

Dušan Ković

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen oh, sorry, I somehow switched parts of the forum

Tieutieu

@Mff73 said in Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update:

No button press this night (i didn’t fall ), and 5h29 awaken time.
So, nothing new.
Next week i will try to sleep with SV + S9PP and see.

Sleep tracking still ok for me with my SV. And I sometimes press buttons at night to look at the time (I have “do no disturb” activated at night), it has never stopped the tracking or shortened my nights.

tiago

@Tieutieu I think it could be like the trend in the Suunto Race,CTL ATL and TSS differences between watch and app, affect some users others not. Don’t know the why,if for some people,in my case, works properly,for others not. It’s related with the new proprietary algorithms from Suunto,and if is a problem who won’t affect everyone is harder to track.

Iggge

Seems like I have have solved the problem by wearing the watch like this.
Two days now and it’s showing correct values

peegee

@Mff73 last night I broke the negative sleep record, l slept for 8h, got up twice during the night, did not press any buttons at all. SV showed 1:04h sleep and that I fell asleep at 05:25am. Which doesn’t make any sense at all… I didn’t get up at this time and wasn’t awake…
Maybe I just dreamt I was asleep

Iggge

Another update: This night it faild, and big!
Went to sleep late at 2350, and up 0615.
Total sleep according to watch: 1 hour and 43 min.

Will wait for next update. If it don’t work after that I’ll sell it

e6321

Yeah to me this definitely seems to be a OHR problem. Wonder what they changed?

Iggge

So this night i got 2.42 hours of sleep. I have actually bought a new watch. Thr poor sleep tracking is killing the data

Philip

@Iggge I think it is more important to watch the figure of the quality of your sleep, and I must say in my par it is always like I feel myself in the morning when getting up.
The hours I slept is more or less 1 or 2 hours less than I slept.

Iggge

@Philip absolutely, but for a 800$ watch I want the most basic features to work. I do know that I wakes up sometimes during sleep for various reasons. But that a 7 hours sleep shows as a 2 hours sleep is just to big difference, and is altso affecting other data to as HRV and Resources

AnonVerticalOwner

Reporting back after some days now again. I’ve had one night that seemed spot-on, but for the rest it’s been randomly completely misjudging sleep/waking times, and detecting awake hours.

It’s clear that when you miss a bit of HR data it draws conclusions from that super quickly, but even with 100%/complete HR data it can get really far off.

I wonder if those who experience this move quite a bit during their sleep. Perhaps it’s not handling it well when people are tossing and turning, and the nights being reported as spot-on could be the ones where they haven’t.

It’s at least not only HR, even if it definitely appears more/too sensitive on that front too. Are there any ideas from Suunto’s end? Happy to test hypotheses.

Tieutieu

Still perfect here : I woke up tonight for a minute.
This morning at first the watch told me « 3 hours sleep » when I went to sleep section (from when I fall asleep to the moment I woke up). But few moment after I had been really awake and stood up, I had the « last night resume » with my 7h37 hours of sleep with 1min awake.
With the previous firmware my SV would had been usually stuck to the 3 hours.

Well, I am not sure what exactly happened, because I have not changed anything at all, but the sleep tracking is now worse on my watch. I have also checked my gf’s S9PP, and it’s even worse. Until two or three nights ago the sleep tracking was spot on, suddenly it has issues with recognising when I went to bed. So the outcome is shorter sleep. I don’t really get it.