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    • dreamer_D Offline
      dreamer_
      last edited by dreamer_

      Hello,

      Today sleep tracking has not worked for me (It was working before the update). I’m one of those users whose HR is usually under 40bpm while sleeping

      The watch is saying this:

      IMG20240704063223.jpg IMG20240704063152.jpg

      But I have slept 6 hours. I have also not received the morning report.

      Can anyone check if it has the same issue after the update? I will track again this night (UTC+1)

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      • JosaipluJ Offline
        Josaiplu Bronze Member @dreamer_
        last edited by

        @dreamer_ Hi
        I just check and my tracking went fine, duration is spot on and I just got my report with the sleep score
        Maybe punctual issue ? Have a nice day

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        • dreamer_D Offline
          dreamer_ @Josaiplu
          last edited by

          @Josaiplu It is very strange and in fact the first (and only) day since I have the watch that I have had this issue. It was fine before.

          What is your HR while sleeping? The changes are for those below 40. Thanks for the answer.

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          • JosaipluJ Offline
            Josaiplu Bronze Member @dreamer_
            last edited by

            @dreamer_ My resting HR is 50-55 so could be linked to your range indeed

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            • dreamer_D Offline
              dreamer_ @Josaiplu
              last edited by

              @Josaiplu the changes are from those who have 40 or less bpm. That is not your range.

              These are the proves that sleep did not work:

              The HR is tracked ok during the sleep. Here you can see the 6 hours of the sleep:

              5bfe5b8b-0e35-47dd-b848-c05b165348c2-image.png

              That means that the HR meassurements are fine. HR was tracked during the sleep

              And here is the sleep report, which is broken:

              861d7938-a116-40b0-9eaa-91c101cdb601-image.png

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              • Todd DanielczykT Offline
                Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @dreamer_
                last edited by

                @dreamer_ mine seemed to be fine this morning.

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                • dreamer_D Offline
                  dreamer_ @Todd Danielczyk
                  last edited by

                  @Todd-Danielczyk The same I was telling @Josaiplu . The changes in firmware for sleep tracking are for those that have 40 bpm or less. That is not your case either.

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                  • sartoricS Offline
                    sartoric Moderator
                    last edited by

                    I got the same figures (41/38) in the app , that could be a funny coincidence or a bug 😁

                    In the watch 39/38

                    SVTS - 2.40.38
                    SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
                    Samsung A5 2016 - Android 7.0
                    Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
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                    • dreamer_D Offline
                      dreamer_ @sartoric
                      last edited by dreamer_

                      @sartoric in fact as you can see, I have 40/38 in my watch and 41/38 in the app. With your similar bmp, your sleep tracking was fine?

                      Thanks!

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                      • sartoricS Offline
                        sartoric Moderator @dreamer_
                        last edited by sartoric

                        @dreamer_
                        yep the tracking was fine, at least the duration of it.

                        SVTS - 2.40.38
                        SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
                        Samsung A5 2016 - Android 7.0
                        Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
                        Suunto App Android 5.2.5 beta
                        Suunto App IOs 2.45.0 (19123) beta on MBP M1

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                        • dreamer_D Offline
                          dreamer_ @sartoric
                          last edited by dreamer_

                          @sartoric I Will check again tonight for sure. If I have the issue again, I’d like to help giving my logs or whatever is needed.

                          Thanks

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                            Iggge
                            last edited by

                            Do a soft reset. Mine works just fine (almost every time)

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                              dreamer_ @Iggge
                              last edited by dreamer_

                              @Iggge It worked!! Today the tracking is just perfect.

                              IMG_20240705_063621.jpg IMG_20240705_063601.jpg

                              My bpm are a bit higher today (I have an exam and I’m not sleeping as much as I should)

                              @sartoric today I have the same info in the watch and the app but in the app I see in the first capture a minimum of 40 and in the second a minimum of 39. The watch says 40

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                              • dreamer_D Offline
                                dreamer_ @dreamer_
                                last edited by dreamer_

                                Today the sleep tracking was again not accurate, after the update. It is not that bad like the first night (which was totally wrong), but It did not track correctly the sleep.

                                So from 3 days, I have a very bad tracking, a good one (after reset) and a not good one.

                                IMG_20240706_102218.jpg IMG_20240706_102155.jpg

                                The watch detects that I’m sleeping at 1:19am but as you can see in the HR data, that is not true.

                                These accuracy issues are only happening after the update. Everything was fine before the update. All that I know is that I’m in the HR affected range of the update.

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                                • ManueleM Offline
                                  Manuele @dreamer_
                                  last edited by Manuele

                                  @dreamer_ Hi,

                                  I am in the HR range of the update too, and, for now, I did not experience major differences from before, it seems that it is more precise in the awake time. Still it is not perfect, and I wish they will solve the licensing deal to obtain sleep stages and nap detection

                                  Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar

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                                    dreamer_ @Manuele
                                    last edited by

                                    @Manuele thanks for the report. I will check again tonight restarting the watch perhaps. There’s something there different. But these days, with an exam there, I’m also more nervous than usual.
                                    I hope they can solve those licesing issues too. At the end, the Vertical is the best watch of the brand and that should be sorted, if possible.

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                                      dreamer_ @dreamer_
                                      last edited by dreamer_

                                      Last two days sleep tracking has been pretty solid. It is not 100% accurate but is definitively better as those two days I reported.

                                      Btw. About that licensing issues, which is the problem exactly? The Race S seems to have the same algorythms as the Race has.
                                      Thanks

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                                        Mff73 @dreamer_
                                        last edited by

                                        @dreamer_
                                        Interpolate for new watches.
                                        https://forum.suunto.com/post/131343

                                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                        Suunto Vertical all black
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                                          dreamer_ @Mff73
                                          last edited by dreamer_

                                          @Mff73 thanks. Very interesting that feedback. So it’s just a matter of time.

                                          The only thing perhaps I don’t agree, is the strategy of keeping the (for now) worse algorythm just only in their best watch. I’m not sure if it’s fair for the people that bought the Vertical. But Suunto knows more those whys than us, of course.

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                                            Mff73 @dreamer_
                                            last edited by

                                            @dreamer_
                                            Read better 😉, maybe it is not only suunto wishes, but also some contractual constraints.
                                            No insights here, but if a model was designed and “negociated” with certain “licensed” feature, it might be difficult to do without (legally speaking).

                                            Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                            Suunto Vertical all black
                                            Wife : S9PP
                                            SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                            Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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