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    • Richard ThygesenR Offline
      Richard Thygesen
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      Totally unusable for me!
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        larrybbaker @sartoric
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        @sartoric I would think not? the app is on the watch 😕

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          sartoric Moderator @larrybbaker
          last edited by sartoric

          @larrybbaker
          The S+ app is used to have real time data while recording the activity

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            This is function is really good. Have now used Suuntosense 4 times and have nothing to complain.
            But i don’t think this is for me since I always get the same results, even if I feel good or tired and therefore don’t see the point of using it right now

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              Mauerwegler @TyreseJ4
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              @TyreseJ4 said in Suunto ZoneSense:

              @Mauerwegler Link?

              https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6836/firmware-collection

              Haven’t done this myself, but you have to download the version you want and then drag‘n‘drop the file on the Suuntolink software on your computer.

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              • Stefan KerstingS Offline
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                @TrailEyes very nice article 🙂

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                • Stefan KerstingS Offline
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                  I would appreciate if one of you guys could help me interpreting my ZoneSense data. BTW a very interesting feature I want to understand more.

                  The first screenshot is from a spinning activity. 20 minutes warm up before weight lifting and I felt that I did an ordinary effort. Not to hard.
                  The second screenshot is from a spinning activity of 50 minutes with three intervals. I did an hard effort but it wasn’t a maximum effort. When I see the aerobic threshold here it is 152 bpm, actually the max of my zone 4. what does that mean? Have I to adjust my zones now?

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                    @Antoine said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                    So it is only with HR belt, it does not work with optical sensor on the watch ?

                    It should work with the Scosche Rhythm24 OHR, as long as you set it to measure HRV.

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                      Tieutieu Platinum Member @Stefan Kersting
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                      @Stefan-Kersting I have been wondering the same after my first run. Z2/Z3 limit proposed by zonesens is far lower in my case than the level i have in HR zones.
                      My thoughts so far : I won’t change my HR zone and see in next weeks months how zonesens will evolve. If have understood well it should need time for the algo to calibrate. And whatever it says, it is supposed to take more consideration of health condition. So when hill it should always propose different HR values than those set in SA.
                      So my final point is : my HR zone are probably “well set” when I’m fit and healthy. Zonesens should bring in time more indications about my real capacities of the day.

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                      • enriqueescomsE Offline
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                        My 33% “good experience” with ZONESENSE.

                        (Suunto 9PP + PolarH10 heart belt / IOS App v2.38)

                        The last few days I have tried Zonesense three times with the following performance results:

                        1. Mountain bike. No route tracking. WATCH FAIL (*) / APP OK
                        2. Mountain bike. With route tracking. WATCH OK / APP OK
                        3. Trail running. With route tracking. WATCH OK / APP FAIL (**)

                        (*) On the watch, the zone sense screen only indicated zone 1, regardless of heart rate or effort level, without the zone gauge moving. Later, however, in the app, the different zones were identified with colors and the thresholds were marked, etc.

                        (**) On the watch, everything worked perfectly, as expected from the Suunto+, indicating the times in each zone, the gauge indicating the appropriate section, etc. But then nothing appeared in the app, as if nothing had been registered.

                        Anyway, a promising feature that hasn’t worked consistently for me yet. I’ll keep trying over the next few days.

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                          Łukasz Szmigiel @enriqueescoms
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                          @enriqueescoms said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                          (*) On the watch, the zone sense screen only indicated zone 1, regardless of heart rate or effort level, without the zone gauge moving. Later, however, in the app, the different zones were identified with colors and the thresholds were marked, etc.

                          I’ve seen it too - however, zones switched as expected, only the gauge didn’t move. I think it was after unpausing the watch?

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                            enriqueescoms @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                            @Łukasz-Szmigiel said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                            I’ve seen it too - however, zones switched as expected, only the gauge didn’t move. I think it was after unpausing the watch?

                            Mmm, well, thinking about it, maybe the pauses have something to do with it.

                            In fact, the only activity that worked well (watch and app) was the one without a pause.

                            In the first one, the autopause was activated shortly after starting (I have autopause in this sport mode). And in the second one, I activated and deactivated the pause during a stop (in trail running I don’t have autopause activated).

                            I’ll keep an eye on this aspect, thanks.

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                              halajos Bronze Member @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                              @Łukasz-Szmigiel I also had issues with ZoneSense, and I also did pause. I explained here: https://forum.suunto.com/topic/11713/race-misbehaving-in-multiple-ways

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                                I am seeing an issue in the APP where periodically the watch will record and display the ZoneSense screen perfectly but when I sync to the app the ZoneSense dropdown is not available. If I kill the app it then loads correctly allowing me to see the ZoneSense data and flip between other metrics. Latest iOS beta SA, Suunto Vertical Ti. Morpheus HR Strap.

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                                  Christoph13 Bronze Member @Guest
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                                  @ferns said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                  @Antoine said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                  So it is only with HR belt, it does not work with optical sensor on the watch ?

                                  It should work with the Scosche Rhythm24 OHR, as long as you set it to measure HRV.

                                  I rather suspect you might be able to make it display something because the minimum condition “HRV input feed present” is satisfied but the data quality is bound to be orders of magnitude lower for optical beat-to-beat analysis compared to a chest strap based on electric impulse detection to make the analysis meaningless (Garbage in, garbage out).

                                  That is not to say that the Scosche is a bad heart rate meter (I am using a Polar Verity Sense myself), I just would not trust HRV data coming from anything but a chest strap.

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                                  • Stefan KerstingS Offline
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                                    would like to share my first observations her. Did some spinning workouts with 3x5 min intervals. when warming up I was in the aerobic zone. after starting a harder effort within the 5 min interval it took about 2 min to get into the anaerobic zone. After further 2 min i got into the Vo2 max zone. So one minute was left and even when still going string with a HR of 158 i dropped back into the aerobic zone. Have to give it som more tries and observe a little bit more.

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                                      @Stefan-Kersting How long were your recovery breaks? If they were short I think you saw the expected behaviour

                                      Edit: Except the breakdown in the end…


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                                        Stefan Kersting @VoiGAS
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                                        @VoiGAS recovery breaks were 5 min

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                                          @enriqueescoms I have similar experiences with my SV… 🥲 I use the Suunto smart heartrate belt

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                                          • Francesco PaganoF Offline
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                                            I keep getting interesting insights with ZoneSense.

                                            Today I woke up with my lowest sleep and resting HR and highest HRV ever. Also when I started running my HR was relatively low compared to the effort I perceived.
                                            The ZoneSense gauge would slip into the anaerobic zone at a lower HR than expected, around 142 bpm, which can be explained with fatigue from a long run 2 days ago. What surprised me is that every time this happened it was when I felt that little extra push when breathing is no longer effortless. But also, ZoneSense stayed in the green (aerobic) at ±148 bpm while pushing down a hill with little effort and easy breathing.
                                            To me this means that today my AeT was lower due to accumulated fatigue, and that a higher HR doesn’t necessarily mean I am crossing the threshold (i.e. I am not really spending much effort).

                                            Obviously my wife says it’s all in my head 🙂

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