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    Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo)

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    • J Offline
      Jer075
      last edited by

      I tried a swimming session today : the Watch count perfectely each lengh but the average speed does not work… i had only distance and the average staid to -/- ! I will try another session to have the current speed and average on the same screen to have a double check.

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      • Inge NallssonI Offline
        Inge Nallsson @pavel.samokha
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        @pavel-samokha said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

        Pool swim distance accuracy improved

        I haven’t had any distance problems earlier, but all swim styles were classified as freestyle. With this update all three styles I used tonight, and exactly when, were identified correctly. Great! Thanks! (And, of course, the distance was spot on - except the 200 metres legs Drill sequence, hint, hint).

        Suunto Race S

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        • pavel.samokhaP Offline
          pavel.samokha @Inge Nallsson
          last edited by

          @Inge-Nallsson thanks for feedback, shared internally to the algorithm developer

          Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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          • althaea35A Offline
            althaea35 Bronze Member
            last edited by althaea35

            Sleep tracking failed for me first night after update. I have toggled tracking on/off and will see how we go tonight.

            First time I have had this issue.

            Update: it appears to be related to resource tracking. Seems to stop recording resources on the watch.

            M5, Quest, Trackpod, A2S, SSU, S9B, S9P, Race
            Garmin 305, 60, 405, Fenix 2, 945, 955
            Polar M430, Vantage V

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            • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
              GiPFELKiND Silver Members @althaea35
              last edited by

              @althaea35 😱oh nooooo really? Hope it will solved with restart your watch

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                orzechszek @GiPFELKiND
                last edited by

                I had strange behavior with sleep tracking. I have set 8h sleep time and rest HB to 60. When I woke up for a while last night at 3 AM, rest of a night was treated as a nap, so finally it shows that I slept for about 4h. HB was below 60.

                Watch: Suunto Race S

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                • EgikaE Offline
                  Egika Platinum Member @orzechszek
                  last edited by

                  @orzechszek rest HR has no influence on the sleep tracking

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                  Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
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                  • Stefano M64S Offline
                    Stefano M64 Silver Members @orzechszek
                    last edited by

                    @orzechszek said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

                    I had strange behavior with sleep tracking. I have set 8h sleep time and rest HB to 60. When I woke up for a while last night at 3 AM, rest of a night was treated as a nap, so finally it shows that I slept for about 4h. HB was below 60.

                    it happened also to me that sometimes the sleep is not properly tracked and I get some part of the night that is marked as nap, once I got 5:30 hr of nap time during the night with no sleep at all. Ever wondered how the nap, sleep and the various sleep states are detected by the software.

                    Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                    • SuperFlo75S Offline
                      SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
                      last edited by SuperFlo75

                      My SV watch seems to work as expected since the update… sleep tracking was working last night 😉 but I think it will need some more time to know more?

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                      • A Offline
                        Artus Diver
                        last edited by

                        Swimming in the pool.
                        New patch and problems with this update.

                        The first problem that appeared was the lack of information about 100-meter laps (markers) despite them being enabled and set.
                        A friend had a similar situation with information about climbing, which stopped appearing after the update despite them being enabled. The day before, everything worked for her on the old software.

                        Another problem is the recognition of swimming styles has completely fallen apart.
                        The first activity today was a 1000m freestyle warm-up. SHOCK, the watch detected everything as “BACKWARD”. No kidding! I’ve been swimming for many years with SAmbit3Peak, S9B, SV and I haven’t noticed any problems with recognizing swimming styles, it worked perfectly until today. Of course, the information about 100 meters didn’t work.

                        The next exercise is 20x100mx20s intervals in the medley style. What was going on here?
                        In short: there were 20 intervals planned, the watch showed 38. Simple math gives a distance of 2000m, but in fact it gave 1500m. A mistake of 500m.

                        The algorithm got totally confused when changing styles and of course it incorrectly interpreted the type of style with the lengths that were supposed to be corrected.

                        The next exercise is 500m backstroke. It recognized the style but out of the planned 500m it came out to 425m.

                        The last exercise is 500m freestyle in rows and pullboy. Six lengths out of 20 were freestyle, the remaining 14 lengths were backstroke!
                        There were still plans for the classic, but my irritation got the better of me (…)

                        Yes, I did a soft reset.

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                        Suunto 9 Baro Titanium
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                        • Frederick RochetteF Offline
                          Frederick Rochette Bronze Member
                          last edited by

                          Hi all,
                          Since the watch update, the wrist heart rate measurement has become completely inaccurate. It is quite low at rest, especially when I am sitting, and in general. Normally, it ranges between 34 and 45 beats per minute. Since this update, we are back to the situation from a few months ago, where the watch regularly displays double the actual value.

                          I also have the impression that this issue occurs during sleep tracking.

                          Additionally, during my swimming session, the watch counted one extra lap and misidentified the swimming style several times.

                          Please take the necessary steps to resolve these issues. Thank you.

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                          • SportsfreundS Offline
                            Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Frederick Rochette
                            last edited by

                            @Frederick-Rochette 34-45 Ruhepuls? 🤨

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                            • pilleusP Offline
                              pilleus @Frederick Rochette
                              last edited by

                              @Frederick-Rochette

                              No problems with my Vertical. 🤔

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                              • Frederick RochetteF Offline
                                Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
                                last edited by

                                @Sportsfreund
                                Yes this is my test HR.

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                                • SportsfreundS Offline
                                  Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Frederick Rochette
                                  last edited by

                                  @Frederick-Rochette what is testHR? Is this really your HR? Or what is the meaning of a „testHR“?

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                                  • GiPFELKiNDG Offline
                                    GiPFELKiND Silver Members @Sportsfreund
                                    last edited by

                                    @Sportsfreund perhaps he means Rest HR

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                                    • Olaf GottschalkO Offline
                                      Olaf Gottschalk Bronze Member @pavel.samokha
                                      last edited by Olaf Gottschalk

                                      @pavel-samokha while I generally appreciate new firmware that fixes bugs and introduces new features, I kindly ask Suunto to respect my DND settings and not wake me up in the middle of the night at 2:15 to inform me about a new firmware that is available.

                                      Would it be possible to do that? Thanks!

                                      Another hint for future releases:
                                      Please remember my exercise.options like “Auto stop” and “feeling” and all other settings that are always lost after a firmware update.
                                      I really hate this. Thanks!

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                                      • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
                                        Александр Даниленко @Artus Diver
                                        last edited by

                                        @Artus-Diver that is really surprising that your other suunto watch could perfectly recognize styles.

                                        For me and for some other people suunto are really bad in this and always had been.

                                        I mentioned this here:
                                        https://forum.suunto.com/post/129066

                                        In my case it is true for both 9PP and Race S.

                                        Saying about new firmware. I have tried it only once by the moment in the swimming pool. Style detection still bad, but it seems there are changes. For example, previously if I kept high pace in breaststroke, the watch recognized it as freestyle. Now it seems recognized it correctly. But on the other hand all other styles - butter back, free - all of them the watch recognized as freestyle with a new firmware.

                                        So at least for me style detection was bad and it is still bad, but differently.

                                        Also I noticed that it takes now much longer time for the watch to calculate the time of the interval. Before it was usually within 5 sec. Now sometimes it felt like 20s.

                                        But I still need to do more tests.

                                        Suunto Race S

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                                        • Brad_OlwinB Online
                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Olaf Gottschalk
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                                          @Olaf-Gottschalk said in Software Update 2.39.44 (2024 Q4 Hotfix + new pool swim algo):

                                          @pavel-samokha while I generally appreciate new firmware that fixes bugs and introduces new features, I kindly ask Suunto to respect my DND settings and not wake me up in the middle of the night at 2:15 to inform me about a new firmware that is available.

                                          Would it be possible to do that? Thanks!

                                          Another hint for future releases:
                                          Please remember my exercise.options like “Auto stop” and “feeling” and all other settings that are always lost after a firmware update.
                                          I really hate this. Thanks!

                                          A nice way to say this PLEASE do not start the same topic in multiple threads!

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          • Frederick RochetteF Offline
                                            Frederick Rochette Bronze Member @GiPFELKiND
                                            last edited by

                                            @GiPFELKiND

                                            Yes rest HR sorry 🙏

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