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Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1)

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    steoreggia @Jeffrey Tillack
    last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 12:48

    @Jeffrey-Tillack my wife’s Race S doesn’t count around 80% of her steps, if we go out together on a walk and I make 10,000 steps in my Race, she only gets around 2500/3000 on her Race S.

    We have already tried switching watches and the result is the same, Race S undercount most of the steps

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      SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member @sartoric
      last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 12:49

      @sartoric I hope there are many people who test the firmware, but looking back the last month I would say, they didn‘t test enough 😢

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        Danny poleg Silver Members @Łukasz Szmigiel
        last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 12:54

        @Łukasz-Szmigiel The update has already been rolled out to everyone, at least from the number of phone calls I receive.😊

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          SamuelP Bronze Member
          last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:09

          Any information about when the new watch faces will be available?

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            Tieutieu Platinum Member
            last edited by Tieutieu 25 Mar 2025, 13:12

            Here is my quick feedback after just coming back from a 44km road bike ride :

            • even if i’m a reaaaallllly fast rider, the 20 meters turn notification was useless at every turning point. It arrives to late ; I was already turning whe the alert was diplayed
            • no more full screen alert might be a good idea, but I missed it

            I would have rather kept the full screen notification (unless when two turning point would be distanced from less than 100m) and have a reminder maybe for bike 50 or 40m before turn instead of those 20meters.

            For the rest, watch works flowly !
            Let’s test further, with trail running when my ankle will be back

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              duffman19 @Tieutieu
              last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:22

              @Tieutieu said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

              the 20 meters turn notification was useless at every turning point. It arrives to late

              Exactly! Looks like most of us agree that a single notification at 20m just isn’t enough for anything over a walking speed. I thought for sure that the omission of the initial ~100m notification was a bug or mistake, but, according to this chart, it is as intended.

              Screenshot 2025-03-25 at 9.13.00 AM.png

              It feels like Suunto is trying to reinvent something that doesn’t need reinventing. Just copy what everyone else does and give us two turn notifications: one at enough distance to give us a heads up and one at the turn as a reminder.

              Vertical Ti

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                enriqueescoms
                last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:28

                I haven’t installed this update yet, so I haven’t been able to test the new TBT mode.

                But doing the math:

                · Running at approximately 5 min/km, the turn notification (20-25 m before) should appear about 6-7 seconds before the turn.

                · Riding MTB at approximately 20 km/h, the turn notification (20-25 m before) should appear about 4-5 seconds before the turn.

                · Fasteners, at approximately 30 km/h, the notification would appear just 3 seconds before the turn.

                🙄

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                  Bogdan1921 Silver Members Bronze Member @enriqueescoms
                  last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:36

                  @enriqueescoms
                  And if you ride with a higher speed, the notification will appear after you take the turn😆 🤣

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                    Stefano M64 Silver Members @enriqueescoms
                    last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:37

                    @enriqueescoms said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                    I haven’t installed this update yet, so I haven’t been able to test the new TBT mode.

                    But doing the math:

                    a “perfect” implementation would require to compute the average speed in order to show the notification with a given time interval (e.g. 10s) before the turn, instead of a given distance (e.g. 20m)

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                      Jan Suchánek @Clément Lavabre
                      last edited by Jan Suchánek 25 Mar 2025, 13:38

                      @Clément-Lavabre
                      OMG! That´s exactly one of the reasons why I left the Garmin and buy Suunto. And now, first update, bugs in beta and after few hours we got release to everyone.
                      But OK, this is just small BUG. Hope it will be better next time and longer time for beta testing. I like my Race, instead of F7Pro which I sent back for warranty.

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                        Tieutieu Platinum Member @Jan Suchánek
                        last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:44

                        @Jan-Suchánek like you said it a small “bug”. So far, with 3 watches updated and few testing, this update seem quit stable. Let’s test the improvements !

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                          duffman19 @enriqueescoms
                          last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:46

                          @enriqueescoms Thanks for the maths 😄. I’ve done two running activities with the new TbT and the reality is the notifications are nearly worthless even at slow trail running speeds. The 20m distance is dependent on the accuracy of the watch’s GNSS (which is still crazy good) and the accuracy of the route. The watch could be 5-10m off at times (rarer these days) and routes and trail maps can be even farther off in places. In such scenarios, that baked-in 20m threshold is useless.

                          @Stefano-M64 said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                          a “perfect” implementation would require to compute the average speed in order to show the notification with a given time interval (e.g. 10s) before the turn, instead of a given distance (e.g. 20m)

                          This is the way.

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                            Dj_afrolexios
                            last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:54

                            Hello,
                            After Update to 2.40.38 I can’t enable Wi-Fi on my Race S, both from phone or watch, so I can’t download offline maps.
                            Is there anyone who has the same problem?

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                              Tieutieu Platinum Member
                              last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 13:58

                              After analyse of my lunch ride, the « small elevation peaks » that I’ve been experimenting since few weeks, due to wind probably, are still there. (I didn’t had such things the past months).

                              Here are 3 sections where it was either pure uphill or downhill.

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                                The_77 Silver Members
                                last edited by The_77 25 Mar 2025, 14:09

                                A note on readability - the timer displayed (if it is running) when activating the screen is definitely smaller than it used to be. I can’t recall if it had the little white vertical line next to it before, but it’s now more in line with the barometric pressure font size, albeit harder to read. I’d also suggest that it has shifted a few too many pixels up in this version of the K14 watch face, it’s notably a jump up a few pixels from the usual complication there, or at least appears that way due to the small timer signal above it.

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                                  misu763 Bronze Member
                                  last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 14:11

                                  S9PP upadetd here!
                                  The power saving mode seems to be improved…I guess that now it works better and my 9PP lifelong will be longer!
                                  Carousel menu is back and I love it! Let’s see how many features have been improved!
                                  Thank you!

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                                    enriqueescoms @Bogdan1921
                                    last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 14:12

                                    @Bogdan1921 For sure 😂

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                                      enriqueescoms @Stefano M64
                                      last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 14:14

                                      @Stefano-M64 Totally agree

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                                        Martin Navrátil Silver Members @duffman19
                                        last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 14:21

                                        @duffman19 said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                        @Stefano-M64 said in Software Update 2.40.38 (2025 Q1):

                                        a “perfect” implementation would require to compute the average speed in order to show the notification with a given time interval (e.g. 10s) before the turn, instead of a given distance (e.g. 20m)

                                        This is the way.

                                        But what about activities that have fast changing speed like mountain biking? Idea is nice but the mixture of both distance and time of display would be the best.

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                                          maszop Bronze Member @Martin Navrátil
                                          last edited by 25 Mar 2025, 14:29

                                          It’s just that different activities require slightly different settings.

                                          What good is it that Suunto has about 100 types of activities if the vast majority are not configured correctly and there is no option to change it.
                                          Apart from such navigation messages, this also applies to autopause, total ascent gain smoothness, default button functions, etc.

                                          I installed it, without testing yet, it works very fast on SV 👍

                                          I use my custom activity modes, all previously used settings are remembered.

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