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    Losing faith on the S9 (treadmill & HR) latest firmware

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    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
      Brad_Olwin Moderator @nassosc
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      @nassosc getting accurate wrist data for distance on a treadmill is likely not possible. Only a footpod will be accurate. Treadmills are notoriously inaccurate as well so be careful how you make comparisons.

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      • nassoscN Offline
        nassosc @Brad_Olwin
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        @Brad_Olwin I understand that but my surprise is that I had excellent results before. With the same watch and the spartan. Not 20-25% difference.

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        • nassoscN Offline
          nassosc
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          Had a talk to my coach today and he confrimed that the treadmills are calibrated.
          Did a 15k run and the S9 logged 9.89k!

          Will try to downgrade the firmware

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          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
            Brad_Olwin Moderator @nassosc
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            @nassosc Need to have @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos check on this. Should not have been worse. Can you confirm that GPS is off?

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            • nassoscN Offline
              nassosc @Brad_Olwin
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              @Brad_Olwin yes gps is off.

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              • SlaShS Offline
                SlaSh Platinum Member
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                Do some running with GPS outside and it will calibrate accelerometer. Because every update wipes calibrated data.

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                • EgikaE Offline
                  Egika Platinum Member @SlaSh
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                  @SlaSh said in Losing faith on the S9 (treadmill & HR) latest firmware:

                  Do some running with GPS outside and it will calibrate accelerometer. Because every update wipes calibrated data.

                  Right.
                  The problem is, that you need some technical background to explain the behavior of the watch…
                  And even then there is a lot of guessing about the functions happening in the background.
                  Why not add an indicator in the watch information about if calibration für walking or running has been completed? Just two flags should not be too difficult to add.

                  Or a warning when starting a run w/o GPS, that the accelerometer has not yet been calibrated.

                  Or at least a hint in the manual.

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                  • nassoscN Offline
                    nassosc @SlaSh
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                    @SlaSh unfortunatly I have done a run with the GPS, actually it was the run before the 3 horrible treadmill runs. Will do another one since my options are limited. Thank you.

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                      There was nothing touched regarding the accelerometer. Try to reflash the FW or reset

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                      • nassoscN Offline
                        nassosc
                        last edited by

                        Did a FW reset and a GPS run and accelerometer seems to be calibrated. Just to set the record straight…

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                        • oeagleoO Offline
                          oeagleo @SlaSh
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                          @SlaSh said in Losing faith on the S9 (treadmill & HR) latest firmware:

                          Do some running with GPS outside and it will calibrate accelerometer. Because every update wipes calibrated data.

                          I’m curious, am I reading this right that if you update the watch, the calibration data for indoor distance, etc is wiped, and you must again do the run outside to recalibrate before it’s accurate indoors again?

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                          • nassoscN Offline
                            nassosc
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                            @oeagleo I have updated the watch several times before in the past and callibration was not needed. Not sure it was a bad update (if that is possible) or it just needed calibrating.

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                            • SlaShS Offline
                              SlaSh Platinum Member @oeagleo
                              last edited by SlaSh

                              @oeagleo watch update is clearing cached data as accelerometer calibration profile and other, so you need to do activity with GPS to get it calibrated again. This is nothing new Farmin watched act the same after upgrade.

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                              • SlaShS Offline
                                SlaSh Platinum Member @nassosc
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                                @nassosc and how treadmill distance and etc looks like now?

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                                • nassoscN Offline
                                  nassosc @SlaSh
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                                  @slash treadmill distance is correct now.

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                                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @nassosc
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                                    @nassosc what solved it ?

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                                    • nassoscN Offline
                                      nassosc
                                      last edited by

                                      not sure, did a watch reset and a gps run. after that the treadmill distance was again ok

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                                      • ? Offline
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                                        I totally agree with you…Screenshot_20181211-175011_Suunto.jpg

                                        I am 45 years old…y I was sustaining 219 BPM for more than 20 min at the beginning of my work out…

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                                        • nassoscN Offline
                                          nassosc @Guest
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                                          @Marcel-Baliño its all the good training! well i get the same error and after about 8-10min it drops to normal levels. As far as I know it is problem with the sensor software that some encounter and it will most probably be fixed in the next update.

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                                          • SlaShS Offline
                                            SlaSh Platinum Member @Guest
                                            last edited by SlaSh

                                            @Marcel-Baliño ohrm or belt?

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