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    Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes

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    • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
      Александр Даниленко
      last edited by Александр Даниленко

      I have no more words about Suunto “updates” which are again and again are downgrades. Every update.

      WHY YOU REMOVED STRUCTURED WORKOUTS FOR SWIMMING?!

      https://youtube.com/shorts/VTe5iRaRVaI?si=qryD9z33yu7k5805

      Every update you only downgrade watches for swimmers! What swimmers did to you? Why are you doing this with us?!

      I haven’t even tested watches in the water yet…pretty sure old bugs are not fixed and new came… 😡

      Suunto Race S

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      • rooldaaR Offline
        rooldaa Silver Members
        last edited by rooldaa

        Thanks for update!

        I have a weird issue though on SV1 Ti.

        The screen brightness wouldn’t go off during time. The screen keeps to be illuminated and a watch doesn’t go to sleep mode. The soft reset didn’t help.

        “Stand by” illumination is off.

        I tried to set pass code to force a watch to go to sleep mode but it didn’t help. I did one more soft reset and I was asked to enter pass code but a watch kept illuminating a screen.

        Something is off here.

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos have you seem somewhat similar while testing?

        Suunto Spartan Ultra, Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

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        • Inge NallssonI Offline
          Inge Nallsson @OutdoorMan
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          @OutdoorMan said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

          in my area, virtually all trails disappear when zoomed to 500m

          So it must be highly dependent on some underlying map data… My area does not have any official ‘trails’ only paths and all kinds of rural access-roads. For example, there is one obscure 10 km loop following dirt roads, timber harvesting roads and even paths made by animals. Width goes from less than 0.5 metres up to something like 3 metres (but not enough for two cars to meet). That full loop is visible at a watch 500 metres view. But another long and criss-cross path system in a wooden area used by dog walkers etc for eons, with widths ca 0.5-1.5 metres, those are only visible at 200 metres and below.

          Someone (my guess: a runner) has probably connected different paths of the 10K loop and marked the resulting lengths as ‘important’ or ‘significant’ enough to show up at the Suunto 500 metres view.

          Suunto Race S

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            cheetah694 Bronze Member
            last edited by

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

            Per-sport mode persistent configuration

            Backlight setting doesn’t seem to be persisted though, or was it not the intention?

            Suunto 9 Peak Pro

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Александр Даниленко
              last edited by

              @Александр-Даниленко jee. Calm down brother.

              Revise your words we are not your punchbag.

              Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
              Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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              • enriqueescomsE Offline
                enriqueescoms @Александр Даниленко
                last edited by enriqueescoms

                @Александр-Даниленко Do you mean that swimming workouts can’t be loaded in general? Or that the ones you already had aren’t showing up? In the latter case, is it resolved if you recreate them assigned to “any activity”?

                I haven’t been using structured workouts for pool swimming lately, but it would be bad news to lose the ability to use them.

                In addition to what you mentioned, I hope that, for pool swimming, the problems with some uncounted laps and the automatic interval timer not working have been fixed.

                Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)
                Suunto Race S (gravel gray)

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                • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
                  Александр Даниленко @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok

                  Could you comment, please, the problem pointed in my comment?

                  Does Suunto think, that swimmers don’t need structured workout like all other athletes?

                  Suunto Race S

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Александр Даниленко
                    last edited by

                    @Александр-Даниленко please mind your language and attitude here. We are not doing some play game here. If you found a bug we can report and fix this.

                    Thanks

                    Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                    Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                    youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                    https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
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                    • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
                      Александр Даниленко @enriqueescoms
                      last edited by Александр Даниленко

                      @enriqueescoms in my comment above I attached link to YouTube video.

                      If you go to Pool Swimming in the watch, then SuuntoPlus, you can find there only apps, but not structured workout (or they are called as Guides).

                      If you go to Weight training, then all those structured workout are visible.

                      All structured workouts I created in the SuuntoApp are are made for “Any” sport, because actually Suunto doesn’t have “Pool swimming” in the list for structured workouts. But before in older firmwares I could still use structured workouts in swimming, making them for “Any” sport. Not that field with structured workout is just removed from Pool Swimming in the watch.

                      Right now I’ve tried to create a new structured workout in the app. It appeared in “Weight training” (which mean it is definitely on the watch), but not in “Pool swimming”.

                      Now it makes watches even more useless in swimming. We (swimmers) have 30-100 intervals during the training - I believe it is more then most of other athletes. We definitely need this functionality, which was before, but now it is gone.

                      Suunto Race S

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                      • EgikaE Offline
                        Egika Platinum Member @Александр Даниленко
                        last edited by

                        @Александр-Даниленко Hello.
                        This is already known at Suunto.

                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S All Black / Titanium Courtney, Run Lime

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                        • atoponceA Offline
                          atoponce @smutnak
                          last edited by

                          @smutnak Bummer. I was hoping this would be fixed.

                          Suunto Race S / 9 Baro / Ambit 3 Peak / Observer
                          Polar H10 / Verity Sense / OH1
                          Stryd Duo / Wind
                          r/suunto mod

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                          • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
                            Александр Даниленко @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by Александр Даниленко

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I report you bugs every update here in the forum.

                            I dont see any changes, only downgrades.

                            About 1-1.5 year ago I even compiled big Word file regarding bugs in the swimming and sent it directly to Suunto via email. No improvements from that time, except a little bit improved stroke detection. In other aspects watches got only downgrades in swimming which I constantly write you here in the forum every update and sometimes directly to support. But Suunto seems just ignore all of that. This is really disappointing.

                            Suunto Race S

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                              2b2bff Silver Members
                              last edited by

                              Out of my extensive testing of one longer walk with a lunch break in between 😁, I can say that the new OHR algorithm on the Race S for me is not a breakthrough.

                              On the plus side, the algorithm is more consistent in terms of no spikes in each direction. The older algorithm tended to start high, sometimes hit the correct values and even dipped below. Especially as I walk up the stairs in the house where I live the HR recorded usually went down when it certainly should have risen.
                              With the new algorithm it still does not rise, but it also does not go down.

                              Now the reading for me is too high all the time. Walking around 105-125. Sitting around, eating lunch 70-90.

                              For comparison I ran earlier today with an HRM connected and walking down the stairs in the beginning after short exercises for warm up has been 70-90, tieing my shoes at about 60. The OHR showed 120 as I walked down the stairs for the walk…

                              Suunto Race S

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                              • enriqueescomsE Offline
                                enriqueescoms @Александр Даниленко
                                last edited by

                                @Александр-Даниленко If that’s the case, it’s a real shame.

                                I’m currently at a stage where I’m just swimming for pleasure, without any specific training. But it’s true that when you train seriously, the number of intervals you have to do is quite considerable, and losing the ability to upload workouts to the watch is a real pain.

                                Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)
                                Suunto Race S (gravel gray)

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                                • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
                                  Александр Даниленко @enriqueescoms
                                  last edited by

                                  @enriqueescoms swimming is my main sport. I do about 400-550 km swimming per year with 150-200 hours overall. Watches + HR sensor (which also has problems after certain update on Suunto) are my main instruments.

                                  Suunto Race S

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                                  • enriqueescomsE Offline
                                    enriqueescoms @Александр Даниленко
                                    last edited by

                                    @Александр-Даниленко Yes, of course, I can put myself in your shoes.

                                    Suunto 9 Peak Pro (all black version)
                                    Suunto Race S (gravel gray)

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                                    • GiPFELKiNDG Online
                                      GiPFELKiND Silver Members @2b2bff
                                      last edited by

                                      @2b2bff 🤣🤣🤣time for downgrade your Firmware 🤣🤣🤣

                                      If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you. #lifewithasthma #runwithasthma #nevergiveup #pushinglimits #adventurestartshere Suunto Ambit 3 Peak , D9, 9 Baro, 9 Peak, Vertical Ti, Race , RaceS Courtney, Race 2, Vertical 2, SA (Beta) Android🏃🏼🧗🚵

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                                        2b2bff Silver Members @GiPFELKiND
                                        last edited by

                                        @GiPFELKiND why? The newer algorithm is not really worse, just different. And this time Suunto is under complete control…
                                        Tomorrow I know how it behaves on the bicycle during commute…

                                        And I like the other things in the firmware.
                                        I even found an unmentioned fix, that if you go to the options menu as you are about to start an activity and connect an HRM, it will actually start using them right away, visible by the heart with belt symbol. Before it would just show the heart symbol and you would have to go out and back into the activity start to change this…

                                        Suunto Race S

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                                        • rooldaaR Offline
                                          rooldaa Silver Members @rooldaa
                                          last edited by

                                          said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

                                          Thanks for update!

                                          I have a weird issue though on SV1 Ti.

                                          The screen brightness wouldn’t go off during time. The screen keeps to be illuminated and a watch doesn’t go to sleep mode. The soft reset didn’t help.

                                          “Stand by” illumination is off.

                                          I tried to set pass code to force a watch to go to sleep mode but it didn’t help. I did one more soft reset and I was asked to enter pass code but a watch kept illuminating a screen.

                                          Something is off here.

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos have you seem somewhat similar while testing?

                                          I’ve just downgraded to the previous software and the screen’s backlight is still constantly on. This update has broken something in my watch.

                                          Suunto Spartan Ultra, Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

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                                          • EgikaE Offline
                                            Egika Platinum Member @rooldaa
                                            last edited by Egika

                                            @rooldaa have you checked the backlight setting in the control panel?
                                            It is unlikely to impossible that the update “broke” something like this.

                                            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal, Race S All Black / Titanium Courtney, Run Lime

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