Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes

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@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

Per-sport mode persistent configuration

Backlight setting doesn’t seem to be persisted though, or was it not the intention?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Александр-Даниленко jee. Calm down brother.

Revise your words we are not your punchbag.

enriqueescoms

@Александр-Даниленко Do you mean that swimming workouts can’t be loaded in general? Or that the ones you already had aren’t showing up? In the latter case, is it resolved if you recreate them assigned to “any activity”?

I haven’t been using structured workouts for pool swimming lately, but it would be bad news to lose the ability to use them.

In addition to what you mentioned, I hope that, for pool swimming, the problems with some uncounted laps and the automatic interval timer not working have been fixed.

Александр Даниленко

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok

Could you comment, please, the problem pointed in my comment?

Does Suunto think, that swimmers don’t need structured workout like all other athletes?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Александр-Даниленко please mind your language and attitude here. We are not doing some play game here. If you found a bug we can report and fix this.

Thanks

Александр Даниленко

@enriqueescoms in my comment above I attached link to YouTube video.

If you go to Pool Swimming in the watch, then SuuntoPlus, you can find there only apps, but not structured workout (or they are called as Guides).

If you go to Weight training, then all those structured workout are visible.

All structured workouts I created in the SuuntoApp are are made for “Any” sport, because actually Suunto doesn’t have “Pool swimming” in the list for structured workouts. But before in older firmwares I could still use structured workouts in swimming, making them for “Any” sport. Not that field with structured workout is just removed from Pool Swimming in the watch.

Right now I’ve tried to create a new structured workout in the app. It appeared in “Weight training” (which mean it is definitely on the watch), but not in “Pool swimming”.

Now it makes watches even more useless in swimming. We (swimmers) have 30-100 intervals during the training - I believe it is more then most of other athletes. We definitely need this functionality, which was before, but now it is gone.

Egika

@Александр-Даниленко Hello.
This is already known at Suunto.

atoponce

@smutnak Bummer. I was hoping this would be fixed.

Александр Даниленко

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I report you bugs every update here in the forum.

I dont see any changes, only downgrades.

About 1-1.5 year ago I even compiled big Word file regarding bugs in the swimming and sent it directly to Suunto via email. No improvements from that time, except a little bit improved stroke detection. In other aspects watches got only downgrades in swimming which I constantly write you here in the forum every update and sometimes directly to support. But Suunto seems just ignore all of that. This is really disappointing.

2b2bff

Out of my extensive testing of one longer walk with a lunch break in between , I can say that the new OHR algorithm on the Race S for me is not a breakthrough.

On the plus side, the algorithm is more consistent in terms of no spikes in each direction. The older algorithm tended to start high, sometimes hit the correct values and even dipped below. Especially as I walk up the stairs in the house where I live the HR recorded usually went down when it certainly should have risen.
With the new algorithm it still does not rise, but it also does not go down.

Now the reading for me is too high all the time. Walking around 105-125. Sitting around, eating lunch 70-90.

For comparison I ran earlier today with an HRM connected and walking down the stairs in the beginning after short exercises for warm up has been 70-90, tieing my shoes at about 60. The OHR showed 120 as I walked down the stairs for the walk…

enriqueescoms

@Александр-Даниленко If that’s the case, it’s a real shame.

I’m currently at a stage where I’m just swimming for pleasure, without any specific training. But it’s true that when you train seriously, the number of intervals you have to do is quite considerable, and losing the ability to upload workouts to the watch is a real pain.

Александр Даниленко

@enriqueescoms swimming is my main sport. I do about 400-550 km swimming per year with 150-200 hours overall. Watches + HR sensor (which also has problems after certain update on Suunto) are my main instruments.

enriqueescoms

@Александр-Даниленко Yes, of course, I can put myself in your shoes.

GiPFELKiND

@2b2bff time for downgrade your Firmware

2b2bff

@GiPFELKiND why? The newer algorithm is not really worse, just different. And this time Suunto is under complete control…
Tomorrow I know how it behaves on the bicycle during commute…

And I like the other things in the firmware.
I even found an unmentioned fix, that if you go to the options menu as you are about to start an activity and connect an HRM, it will actually start using them right away, visible by the heart with belt symbol. Before it would just show the heart symbol and you would have to go out and back into the activity start to change this…

rooldaa

said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

Thanks for update!

I have a weird issue though on SV1 Ti.

The screen brightness wouldn’t go off during time. The screen keeps to be illuminated and a watch doesn’t go to sleep mode. The soft reset didn’t help.

“Stand by” illumination is off.

I tried to set pass code to force a watch to go to sleep mode but it didn’t help. I did one more soft reset and I was asked to enter pass code but a watch kept illuminating a screen.

Something is off here.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos have you seem somewhat similar while testing?

I’ve just downgraded to the previous software and the screen’s backlight is still constantly on. This update has broken something in my watch.

Egika

@rooldaa have you checked the backlight setting in the control panel?
It is unlikely to impossible that the update “broke” something like this.

rooldaa

@Egika haha, yes, I missed that! I’ve never controlled it for there. Weird that it’s become ON after the update, though.

But thanks for the advice!

wakarimasen

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen said in Suunto 2.50.26 – Q4 2025 Release Notes:

Note, that for me on Suunto Race, the installation behaved like a hard reset, i.e., watch needs to be repaired to the app, all zones are reset, sleep tracking is disabled, all paired sensors are removed and HRV range needs to be relearned.

No good for the OP but mine has updated without any fuss

Александр Даниленко

@Egika will this problem be fixed in future updates?

What about other general changes in swimming? Like for example those mentioned here:
https://forum.suunto.com/post/129066
All of them are still actual.

for those, who use external HR sensor in swimming (like Polar Verity Sense), now with new connection watches vibrate, which in swimming happens every stoke. I would like to have possibility to turn of notification of sensor connection. Now to deal with that I have to use “Dont disturb mode” in swimming. Before new connection logic was introduced, it worked fine.

Also, it is almost a year since clockwatch screen in swimming doesn’t show the moment when you stopped, the screen is completely useless. It could be nice if Suunto could return this feature - now S+ app SwimTimer doesn’t replace this, because it always has a delaying when starting counting rest time. That screen could show you the moment when you stoped in the past.

Additionally, I already mentioned it before - drill mode in S+ just doesn’t work. It relies on distance calculation by the watches, which count pools only with hands movements. But drills itself doesn’t suppose hands movement - even in your list of drills in that S+ app you have swimming with kickboard, which means that swimmer hold kickboard with his hands, so they doesn’t move.