Updates for V1

[martintrail]

@thanasis No one will answer you. Certainly no one officially. That’s just the way it is.

[VoiGAS]

@martintrail Yes, but I think its good to keep the topic active. Last info was that the V1 isn’t discontinued, but April and July Updates just didn’t come. Now with end of September another quarter ends and we will see if a new Update arrives - for the V1
Still hoping

[martintrail]

@VoiGAS There are rumors that Q3 will likely be delayed and shipped together with Q4.

[2b2bff]

@martintrail would be great if Suunto could just have a short message on their blog “Sorry guys, for reason xyz we have to delay Q3 and ship it together with Q4.”, wouldn’t it?
I mean customer communications and so. Would help for all the “is it there, yet?”-people.

[André Faria]

@2b2bff said:

@martintrail would be great if Suunto could just have a short message on their blog “Sorry guys, for reason xyz we have to delay Q3 and ship it together with Q4.”, wouldn’t it?
I mean customer communications and so. Would help for all the “is it there, yet?”-people.

I guess most companies don’t share that kinda of stuff. Also if I recall correctly suunto doesn’t have a public plan aobut releases , like garmin for example.

[2b2bff]

@André-Faria I know there is no exact plan but in the past there have been quarterly updates all around. The release videos of Janne have been delivered only after the release has been made, but on the other hand he talks about updates coming later for specific device models.

So, why not publish a short video - if that is the known outlet - about Q3, with “sorry, will come together with Q4”. They don’t even have to name the real reason. “Release is not up to our quality standards, yet” is as good as any reason.
In my books this only will increase credibility instead of being tight lipped for three months.

[ChristopheRamon]

@André-Faria said:

@2b2bff said:

@martintrail would be great if Suunto could just have a short message on their blog “Sorry guys, for reason xyz we have to delay Q3 and ship it together with Q4.”, wouldn’t it?
I mean customer communications and so. Would help for all the “is it there, yet?”-people.

I guess most companies don’t share that kinda of stuff. Also if I recall correctly suunto doesn’t have a public plan aobut releases , like garmin for example.

I’m a new Suunto user, but a long-time user/admin/lover of the Debian Linux distribution. It looks like both share the same principle: a new version is released only when it’s ready (i.e., virtually bug-free), and not according to any predetermined schedule. This is why Debian runs business-critical applications all over the world, and probably why some choose Suunto products over others, despite the wait for new releases. I will not blame Suunto’s developers for dedicating time to thoroughly testing their solution because, imho, robustness matters more than timeline.

[thanasis]

we are discussing various software engineering schools of thoughts here … I never liked the fixed long update cycles in any software (and never really stuck with it in my company).
in any case, we do know that V1 is an old device, released some 3 years go etc
we also know that there are issues with the firmware never addressed etc. Probably Suunto is not going to invest a ton on this device, but still any official statement would make sense.

Now if Suunto’s policy is : use it if /while it works, don’t question /ask anything, don’t expect any visibility …that’s the way things are, go buy another device etc… it’s another thing. I hope it isn’t though because the usual buyers of a next generation of a watch are happy - loyal- customers of some previous ones. And… It seems that much of Suunto’s loyalty comes from the Ambit 2-3 peak days

[Stefano M64]

@thanasis said:

Now if Suunto’s policy is : use it if /while it works, don’t question /ask anything, don’t expect any visibility …that’s the way things are, go buy another device etc

the fact that a 600-to-800 euros watch can became obsolete and not supported after just 3 years is a bit frightening … it isn’t?

[BrunoH]

@Stefano-M64

Obsolete? No, my V1 works just fine, there’s nothing obsolete about it.

Not supported? Being supported does not mean getting all the new bells and whistles with the latest watch models. I still get support if I need and I believe there will be a release addressing the most outstanding issues.

[Łukasz Szmigiel]

@Stefano-M64 my 22-year-old Yaris is no longer supported as it’s not getting any firmware updates. But hey, it works, is cheap to maintain and gets me from A to B so I guess it’s ok.

[VoiGAS]

@BrunoH Full support of the HRM2 is something I would not call “Bells and Wistles”. My wife (long discontinued) Forerunner 245 support Running dynamics from Garmin HRM. My (still sold by Suunto) V1 doesn’t support running dynamics from Suunto HRM. Thats absolutely not balanced

[Stefano M64]

@BrunoH said:

Obsolete? No, my V1 works just fine,

I didn’t mean obsolete from the functional point of view, but from the Suunto’s one, old hardware cannot receive new features (and that could be ok) while the fix of old bugs seems to be procrastinated to no date
such a flagship devices should worth to be supported for longer period as Samsung does guaranteeing 7 years of updates for the galaxy line top smartphones

[Egika]

@Stefano-M64 I don’t think comparing sport watches to either cars or smartphones makes a lot of sense.

[Stefano M64]

@Egika said:

@Stefano-M64 I don’t think comparing sport watches to either cars or smartphones makes a lot of sense.

several years ago I bought a Sony Xperia 10 III and, some months later, a Sony Xperia 10 IV for my wife, sadly after about 2 years they stopped receiving OS and security updates … I will never buy a Sony smartphone again for sure.

I just love my Race, but in the next future i really don’t know if I will invest my money in a device that is not guaranteed to have a decent support for the years to come.

[Egika]

@Stefano-M64 smartphones become vulnerable without security updates.
Sport watches just do what they do. Like the car mentioned above.
For some time - as long as hardware allows - watches can be improved with new functions. Still they work well without these feature updates.
And since you don’t know what will be improved, and if it is beneficial for your specific use case, it makes no sense to make a buying decision based on features that might possibly come and probably are of no use for you.

I understand that it is a good feeling to know that there might be something in it for yourself. still it is just a guess and nothing to build a buying decision on.

[elbee]

@Egika said:

@Stefano-M64 smartphones become vulnerable without security updates.
Sport watches just do what they do.

That is not entirely true. Smartwatches contain privacy data, not the least of which your presumable home address. With some you can pay.

You don’t want anyone hacking into your watch (via bluetooth or wifi) and steal your data.

Smartwatches haven’t been a target. Might be because other systems are easier. Or the data on it is less valuable in money (but maybe more valuable for people with other intentions)

[domi87]

Any news about V1 updates? I saw there is a V2 update with some improvements on D+ calculation (with wind?), which is only “issue” I have with V1 solar. Thanks

[isazi]

@domi87 no one that knows can comment on this, there will be an announcement when the update is released.

[Brad_Olwin]

@plopes73 Sorry, have not visited this thread in awhile. My solar works well. In full sunlight here in Colorado I have gone on a 1.5 hour run with no loss of battery. So in bright full sun with few obstacles I find the solar is quite good. No other Suunto can match the battery. On long fastback trips I often get the battery estimate of 90h and rarely charge. This is my go to watch for fast packing.