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      johann.fuehrer Bronze Member
      last edited by johann.fuehrer

      https://www.suunto.com/suunto-collections/suunto-5/

      Quick, as long as it’s there available … 😉

      And NO BARO! edit because wrong!

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        cosme.costa @Frédéric Fiandino
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        @Frédéric-Fiandino said in Suunto 5:

        @cosmecosta I do not share your analysis or your comparison. If the S5 has to embark more functionality than the S9 for a lower price it is quite normal that the owners of S9 feel aggrieved. This is not just a story of functionality provided at the base, it is resentment of the brand … Sunnto pays his (bad?) Choice. there is a lot of mistrust in relations with his community. The products are good, but whoever today buys a Suunto will feel frustrated with the competition, because it is undeniable that they are late. They have to generate revenue, so to launch new product, but we must not forget that the brand is marginal, with respect to Garmin for example, so we are the users, the best embassadors. How many of us thought that the Spartan range would be superior to the Ambit range? For the price of the watch! Ditto for the S9, ditto for the application … Unless Suunto targets a niche market, then there is no problem but it must be faultless on embedded technologies in watches and demonstrate that the price is justified, but again Sunnto is average, neither more nor less.

        Why a S9 owner can feel aggrieved for not having fitness features if never have been advertised? I bought my SSU one month before the S9 was announced, can I feel aggrieved because nobody has told me anything (I would have waited and bought the S9)?. I do not like it but this is how the the market works.
        Companies launch products that have been previously developed (usually some years) and some times do not suit our desires or time frames, or sometimes the companies miss the reality of the market, get lost and need time to return to the correct place.
        In my opinion we can complain to Suunto that they are not delivering an app that has the same features than the MC, that we still do not know if we will have Web interface, etc. I would complain if none of the products have a feature and later on they add the feature in some watches but not in others, but regarding fitness, S3 has firstbeat features out of the box, not S9. And do not get me wrong, if they add features to my SSU all of them will be welcomed (I prefer if they are outdoors as the watch was adverstised for outdoors).
        In Europe you have, at least, two weeks to return a product if you do not like it, so you can return it if you consider that lacks features.

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          dulko79 @johann.fuehrer
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          @johann-fuehrer

          If you check spefications, Altimeters section, it says *Combined GPS and barometric altimeter (FusedAlti ™).

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          • zhang965Z Offline
            zhang965
            last edited by

            sb.jpg

            Winners Wear Winners

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              johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @dulko79
              last edited by

              @dulko79 You are right, must have missed this!

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                johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @johann.fuehrer
                last edited by johann.fuehrer

                @johann-fuehrer “Product available for preorder, delivery starts on 4th June…”

                € 329,00

                Nur auf Vorbestellung erhältlich. Das Produkt wird ab dem 4. Juni 2019 ausgeliefert.

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                • Dušan KovićD Offline
                  Dušan Ković @zhang965
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                  So, my problem with Suunto fitness - not fitness watches consists of following. I first bought S3F, I liked fitness stuff but I really missed GPS and outdoor stuff. Then I bought S9B which is awesome, but it lacked fitness stuff. Not to mention that at the time Suunto app was almost unusable, but I wanted to stay with Suunto as a brand. I’m not a ultra runner, just a regular person who likes outdoors, mountains, trail running, but also gym, tracking my fitness progress, etc. I love suunto for their quality and at the time that I bought S9 I didn’t have other future proof option. Now they release S5, which has both outdoor and fitness features. Watch which is probably more usable to a person who is not a pro. S9 just doesn’t look that better for a regular person than S5. It is still a better build and materials, but S5 looks like a better deal, to me at least. S9 supports all of the fitness and outdoor things, and as a flagship that costs a lot of money should have them. Just give us options to turn features that we don’t need on or off.

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                  • cosme.costaC Offline
                    cosme.costa @zhang965
                    last edited by cosme.costa

                    @zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

                    sb.jpg

                    As you have said in another post, go an buy a Garmin.
                    If you do not understand that the comparison wasn’t in the car that was in the features is not my problem or you could say that you do not understand it and will try to make it simpler. I’ve tried to have a constructive discussion.
                    BTW forget about me, don’t bother to answer me I won’t answer you anymore.

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                      martin Bronze Member
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                      I’d say no baro, if you compare both 5 (first column) and 9 (second) :

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                        Egika Platinum Member
                        last edited by

                        correct.
                        No baro.
                        If it was Baro that would be in the name. Plus you would see some openings in the housing.
                        The FusedAlti information is based on someone in the marketing department, who put a wrong checkbox because he don’t know or understand…

                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                          dulko79 @Egika
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                          @Egika I compared products on Suunto UK website, old Suunto Spartan Trainer and new Suunto 5. Main differences in Altimeter section are: Combined GPS and barometric altitude (FusedAlti™) and Altitude in daily mode. It could be a mistake though…

                          App: beta
                          Phone: Iphone
                          iOS

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                            martin Bronze Member @Egika
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                            @Egika said in Suunto 5:

                            The FusedAlti information is based on someone in the marketing department, who put a wrong checkbox because he don’t know or understand

                            Could it be based on accelerometer data, as in the FusedTrack ?

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                              Prenj @martin
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                              @martin
                              It looks like no baro to me too.

                              Have you noticed that they stated it’s going to be compatible with movescount and that there is:

                              • Waypoint and visual route navigation
                              • Point of Interest (POI) navigation

                              Isn’t this strange? They are listing movescount, waypoints and POIs when they are effectively going to ditch those features in very near future.

                              Otherwise, it looks pretty decent. If it only had barometer it could replace Ambit3 Peak. But unfortunately without a movescount or some new web platform, even with baro, it wouldn’t appeal to me. It would be too inconvenient to use for hiking if I had to create and load routes using my phone. I don’t want to use third party tools for basic watch features. Third party tools may exist now, but there is no guarantee they will work reliably and they will be compatible with the watch at all. Now they work, tomorrow they don’t. They have no obligation to me in any sense.

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                                zhang965 @Prenj
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                                @Emir-Karisik said in Suunto 5:

                                @martin
                                It looks like no baro to me too.

                                Have you noticed that they stated it’s going to be compatible with movescount and that there is:

                                • Waypoint and visual route navigation
                                • Point of Interest (POI) navigation

                                Isn’t this strange? They are listing movescount, waypoints and POIs when they are effectively going to ditch those features in very near future.

                                Otherwise, it looks pretty decent. If it only had barometer it could replace Ambit3 Peak. But unfortunately without a movescount or some new web platform, even with baro, it wouldn’t appeal to me. It would be too inconvenient to use for hiking if I had to create and load routes using my phone. I don’t want to use third party tools for basic watch features. Third party tools may exist now, but there is no guarantee they will work reliably and they will be compatible with the watch at all. Now they work, tomorrow they don’t. They have no obligation to me in any sense.

                                For me it’s not strange with the connection to movescount, the last email from suunto described:

                                Suunto movescount.com (web service): 
                                We have heard from many of you that the Movescount web service is an important part of your Suunto experience.  We continue to review movescount.com and its most important and utilized functionalities.

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                                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                                  Where does it say it has Fused Alti? Link please?

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                                    martin Bronze Member
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                                    By the way, does anybody know what’s the use of the small round metal dot on the back of that watch, which is already on the trainer as well (but on no other model as far as I can see) ?

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                                      martin Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

                                      Where does it say it has Fused Alti? Link please?

                                      https://www.suunto.com/fr-fr/Produits/Montres-de-sport/suunto-5/suunto-5-all-black/
                                      under «altimètre»

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                                        johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos take my link from below: https://www.suunto.com/Products/sports-watches/suunto-5/suunto-5-all-black/

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @johann.fuehrer
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                                          @johann-fuehrer thanks

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                                            danisius Bronze Member
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                                            What do you think is there any chance to have drills in swimming.

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