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    • zhang965Z Offline
      zhang965
      last edited by

      On the flip side, the Suunto 5 has the following features the Suunto 9 doesn’t:

      – Has stress tracking metrics
      – Has body resources (aka body battery) metric
      – Has sleep quality metrics
      – Has V02Max tracking/metrics
      – Has adaptive training plans

      As I’ve said numerous times before – I simply don’t understand it when a company’s flagship product (Suunto 9) lacks features that a lesser product has. I don’t really even care ‘why’ that is (in this case, likely licensing driven since these are FirstBeat features). All it does is serve to frustrate the very buyers you want most: People who are buying the more expensive thing.

      LOL

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      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zhang965
        last edited by

        @zhang965

        its not a lesser product. ITs a product for a different type of person the progress oriented athlete.

        The extra $$ that your S9 costs are material costs among others.

        Keep in mind the s3 had also these features and I did not see anyone here complain about it before or after buying the s9 right?

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          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

          I think many hoped or still hope that these metrics will come to S9 too.

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
            last edited by

            @moe67er include me as well, but that does not give a reason to flame your product with a new product coming out.

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            • VylliV Offline
              Vylli Bronze Member
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              It’s true that we all knew the S9 was missing these features but somehow I still feel cheated. For sure I am disappointed to see these features coming to a cheaper watch. Sure hope to see them soon on my S9 baro as well. I’ve been a Suunto user for years but all these recent things like moving from Movescount to SA (which lacks very important things) makes me wonder if I should go for another brand next time.

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              • zhang965Z Offline
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

                @moe67er include me as well, but that does not give a reason to flame your product with a new product coming out.

                Come on dude, nobody will flame a product.

                We just consider it as a joke as missing features from flagship model.

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                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zhang965
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                  @zhang965 I did not say that one did so 😉 And I am with you. Proud owner of my 9 and 5 and I am like: Do I have to wear both? OMG.

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                    Droro
                    last edited by

                    Given that suunto 5 has licensed firstbeat features, I would be surprised if spartan watches get any sort of hrv, vo2 max or any analysis based on readily available watch data via SA or fw updates in the future. It is just not profitable. Easier to sell almost identical new models with these features. (which are nothing new in competitor watches…).

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Droro
                      last edited by

                      @Droro we can do vo2max not liscensed. MC has it

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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                        last edited by

                        at least now all Suunto knows about it (the wants of FB features).
                        Its all over facebook, twitter, here etc

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                          Droro @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos true. I still think stress based hrv is potentially very useful for athletes, and shouldn’t be featured in just a few models given that the data exists for most watches.

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                          • Dušan KovićD Offline
                            Dušan Ković @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is there any place on this forum or some other forum where we can open topics and feature requests but for watches, not SA? So users can upvote requests in similar manner

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Dušan Ković
                              last edited by

                              @Dušan-Ković I could allow that and its fine, but atm the purpose of this forum is not it so I am not sure if it will serve more as a placebo. And that would not be nice.
                              I would not like people to go and vote and then have high hopes.

                              Get what I mean?

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                              • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                Dušan Ković @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yup, I understand. It would need to be an official place for that stuff. So if users vote for something it would be forwarded to Suunto.

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                                  martin Bronze Member @jw cou
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                                  @jean-william-cousin said in Suunto 5:

                                  Or like on the Polar Vantage something that detects the contact of the skin so that the 24/7 hr consumes less battery if the watch is not worn?

                                  I’d like if it could be that, but on my Trainer, if I remove it and let it on a still surface without turning off 24/7 HR, I will see it flashing regularly…
                                  Also the metal dot position close to the protruding HR does not make for good contact with the skin, unless you wear it so tight that the HR monitor digs into the skin…

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                                    last edited by

                                    Suunto is the only company where the top end watch has less features (whether good or bad it is another discussion) than every other phone in its lineup (3,5).
                                    Now, imagine they release s10 with those features…

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                                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator
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                                      If you all have questions I can help answer them about Suunto 5 vs. Suunto 9.
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                                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                        JuanPh Bronze Member
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                                        Hi everyone

                                        Hope that Suunto 5 wristband will work with Spartan Trainer (which is no longer available since several months, I fear the day when the wristband of my Trainer will break !)

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                                        • suzzloS Offline
                                          suzzlo Moderator @Brad_Olwin
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                                          @Brad_Olwin sure! Did you compare your training plan with the one that offer the watch?

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                                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @suzzlo
                                            last edited by Brad_Olwin

                                            @suzzlo The Training Plans on the watch are best, I think for individuals wanting to achieve better overall fitness and there are three options available. If one already trains more than 5-7h per week I do not know how effective the plans might be. For me, I think the plan could help me boost fitness in the short term but my training volume is very high (typically 14h-15h per week) and the plan does not tailor well for me as the plans volume is much lower. As I said before, if one is attempting to improve overall fitness the plans should work well.

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