Suunto 5

Frédéric Fiandino

@azeanic Be careful though, although manufactured by Valencell, the optical sensors of the Spartan and S.x series are not identical. And consider that the inclusion of these sensors in watches responds to a market logic and not technology. Even today optical sensors do not have the reliability of a chest sensor.

danisius

Dcrainmaker also posted preview https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/05/suunto-5-everything-you-need-to-know-first-runs.html.

zhang965

On the flip side, the Suunto 5 has the following features the Suunto 9 doesn’t:

– Has stress tracking metrics
– Has body resources (aka body battery) metric
– Has sleep quality metrics
– Has V02Max tracking/metrics
– Has adaptive training plans

As I’ve said numerous times before – I simply don’t understand it when a company’s flagship product (Suunto 9) lacks features that a lesser product has. I don’t really even care ‘why’ that is (in this case, likely licensing driven since these are FirstBeat features). All it does is serve to frustrate the very buyers you want most: People who are buying the more expensive thing.

LOL

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@zhang965

its not a lesser product. ITs a product for a different type of person the progress oriented athlete.

The extra $$ that your S9 costs are material costs among others.

Keep in mind the s3 had also these features and I did not see anyone here complain about it before or after buying the s9 right?

A Former User

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

I think many hoped or still hope that these metrics will come to S9 too.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@moe67er include me as well, but that does not give a reason to flame your product with a new product coming out.

Vylli

It’s true that we all knew the S9 was missing these features but somehow I still feel cheated. For sure I am disappointed to see these features coming to a cheaper watch. Sure hope to see them soon on my S9 baro as well. I’ve been a Suunto user for years but all these recent things like moving from Movescount to SA (which lacks very important things) makes me wonder if I should go for another brand next time.

zhang965

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

@moe67er include me as well, but that does not give a reason to flame your product with a new product coming out.

Come on dude, nobody will flame a product.

We just consider it as a joke as missing features from flagship model.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@zhang965 I did not say that one did so And I am with you. Proud owner of my 9 and 5 and I am like: Do I have to wear both? OMG.

Droro

Given that suunto 5 has licensed firstbeat features, I would be surprised if spartan watches get any sort of hrv, vo2 max or any analysis based on readily available watch data via SA or fw updates in the future. It is just not profitable. Easier to sell almost identical new models with these features. (which are nothing new in competitor watches…).

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Droro we can do vo2max not liscensed. MC has it

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

at least now all Suunto knows about it (the wants of FB features).
Its all over facebook, twitter, here etc

Droro

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos true. I still think stress based hrv is potentially very useful for athletes, and shouldn’t be featured in just a few models given that the data exists for most watches.

Dušan Ković

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos is there any place on this forum or some other forum where we can open topics and feature requests but for watches, not SA? So users can upvote requests in similar manner

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Dušan-Ković I could allow that and its fine, but atm the purpose of this forum is not it so I am not sure if it will serve more as a placebo. And that would not be nice.
I would not like people to go and vote and then have high hopes.

Get what I mean?

Dušan Ković

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yup, I understand. It would need to be an official place for that stuff. So if users vote for something it would be forwarded to Suunto.

martin

@jean-william-cousin said in Suunto 5:

Or like on the Polar Vantage something that detects the contact of the skin so that the 24/7 hr consumes less battery if the watch is not worn?

I’d like if it could be that, but on my Trainer, if I remove it and let it on a still surface without turning off 24/7 HR, I will see it flashing regularly…
Also the metal dot position close to the protruding HR does not make for good contact with the skin, unless you wear it so tight that the HR monitor digs into the skin…

A Former User

Suunto is the only company where the top end watch has less features (whether good or bad it is another discussion) than every other phone in its lineup (3,5).
Now, imagine they release s10 with those features…

Brad_Olwin

If you all have questions I can help answer them about Suunto 5 vs. Suunto 9.

JuanPh

Hi everyone

Hope that Suunto 5 wristband will work with Spartan Trainer (which is no longer available since several months, I fear the day when the wristband of my Trainer will break !)