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    • suzzloS Offline
      suzzlo Moderator @Brad_Olwin
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      @Brad_Olwin I experienced really bad altitude values with my Spartan Sport Wrist. Always around 50% less than expected. I have a hilly route around my house of 15k +350m (road), a never get more than 160-170. I have compared with my wife’s vivoactive 3, with Runalyze, Strava, Gaia, SA route planner…
      I have send to Vantaa, but their answer was: “all test performed well and it’s no baro unit. Your watch has been send back”.
      So I will never forget to add baro to my checklist (even than I’m not trail oriented)

      BR

      Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
      Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
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        GingerBeardMan Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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        @Brad_Olwin Thanks for the reply, sorry if you had to repeat yourself.
        I don’t understand the argument of not wanting the option of having features on the watch, if you’re not interested then you can ignore it or disable it.
        Sleep tracking and all HR tracking is there with the option to disable.

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          zhang965 @GingerBeardMan
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          @GingerBeardMan said in Suunto 5:

          @Brad_Olwin Thanks for the reply, sorry if you had to repeat yourself.
          I don’t understand the argument of not wanting the option of having features on the watch, if you’re not interested then you can ignore it or disable it.
          Sleep tracking and all HR tracking is there with the option to disable.

          Yes, it’s a weird thing I saw in the forum.

          I met another said almost the same , they don’t want to add these features to suunto 9.

          I don’t understand their logic, not wanting the option of features?

          We, normal people, if we don’t need it, then we don’t use it, nothing wrong to keep it as options.

          Winners Wear Winners

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            A Former User @zhang965
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            @zhang965 If “I” don’t need something, then no one should need it too.
            Also when next year s9version2 comes out with these features, then what?

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              zhang965 @Guest
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              @Yannis-Belouris said in Suunto 5:

              @zhang965 If “I” don’t need something, then no one should need it too.
              Also when next year s9version2 comes out with these features, then what?

              Buy a s9 verions2

              Winners Wear Winners

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              • Bogdan1921B Offline
                Bogdan1921 Silver Members Bronze Member @zhang965
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                @zhang965

                We already talk about s9 2nd version, when the first is far away to be stable. Who will buy the second version and why the things ar going so fast? I can’t undestand…

                Suunto Race
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                Iphone 14 Pro
                Suunto 9 Baro [sold]

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                • Saketo NemoS Offline
                  Saketo Nemo Moderator @Bogdan1921
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                  @Chindris-Bogdan
                  We are only making assumptions based on nothing, sleep peacefully 😉

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                  • Bogdan1921B Offline
                    Bogdan1921 Silver Members Bronze Member @Saketo Nemo
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                    @Saketo-Nemo

                    I can expect surprise, so I can’t sleep😃

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                    • zhang965Z Offline
                      zhang965 @Bogdan1921
                      last edited by zhang965

                      @Chindris-Bogdan said in Suunto 5:

                      @zhang965

                      We already talk about s9 2nd version, when the first is far away to be stable. Who will buy the second version and why the things ar going so fast? I can’t undestand…

                      The 2nd version will not be realized too soon, but it’s the mainly strategy of nowadays: build new model asap; develop the model after the release, you said S9 is far away to be stable, how about Spartan? the Spartan ultra is yet to be stable even today!

                      (and you might have a mess of products name, for example thinkpad X1, 7 generations shared the same name )

                      the good news is, all new suunto watch will be established in a united system, so for software development, it should be easy than before.

                      Winners Wear Winners

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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                        Hi all Suunto watches have the same software except different firmware depending on the HW (eg GPS of Spartan via S9).

                        If s9 becomes stable etc Spartan becomes as well.

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                          zhang965 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

                          Hi all Suunto watches have the same software except different firmware depending on the HW (eg GPS of Spartan via S9).

                          If s9 becomes stable etc Spartan becomes as well.

                          👍

                          Winners Wear Winners

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                            dulko79 @Brad_Olwin
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                            @Brad_Olwin Thank you for detailed answer. I have two more questions, are workouts (defined by intensity and duration) also structured ? For example, is running activity divided into warm up phase, main phase and cool down phase or is there only one phase ? After finishing all workouts during week, do you get any feedback regarding fitness improvement, like text summary or just fitness values - VO2max ? On the watch or in SA ?

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                            • Frédéric FiandinoF Offline
                              Frédéric Fiandino @cosme.costa
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                              @cosmecosta hello, first of all sorry for the late response.
                              I partly share your analysis, the bottom of my thought is rather directed to the general feeling of users. Everyone agrees on the quality of the hardware (except SST, another debate …), but you can not deny that a large number of users are, today, frustrated by the software, that he is embarked or deported. The support for the Ambit series and its future, the intervals, the brief analysis offered by the application, the abandonment of movescount.com … I will not redo the list.
                              Indeed everything is not bad, far from it, some subject subject advance, others not.
                              Very honestly I am very happy with my Spartan Sport WHR, but having had an Ambit 3 before, I never managed to part with this feeling of frustration. I am surely not the only one.
                              No one can say that the Suunto ecosystem is now mature, yet new watches come out with new functionality and they are not sold by crownfunding, it is not about funding a project. Suunto knows the market, to an expertise and an experience however since the Spartan range it looks like newbies.
                              To end up positive, I love my Spartan so much that I do not intend to change it and sincerely hope that Suunto will be able to reduce the accumulated backlog and that it will regain the confidence that has been eroded over time.
                              Good day to all

                              Race
                              S9P with a firmware too
                              SSSWHR with a firmware inside
                              Ambit 3 Run

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                                pilleus @Frédéric Fiandino
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                                @Frédéric-Fiandino said in Suunto 5:

                                Ambit 3

                                … is for me the choice for daily usage. I have a Spartan Ultra too, but even outside the display is not as good readable as the one of the Ambit 3, the light mode can only be used in a training, the touch screen is a no go with sweaty fingers and some other things more.

                                I do not understand why there is no new watch without OHR (it’s not usable while riding a bike) and without touch screen. To obtain proper heart rate there is no alternative to a chest strap.

                                An Ambit 3 with the new Sony chip for energy saving GPS and the possibility of vibration (timer, heart rate zones, warnings concerning the weather) is definitely missing. Without touch screen and without OHR.

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                                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                                  @pilleus said in Suunto 5:

                                  I do not understand why there is no new watch without OHR (it’s not usable while riding a bike) and without touch screen. To obtain proper heart rate there is no alternative to a chest strap.

                                  Finally ! Someone said it 😄

                                  Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                  Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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                                  • Frédéric FiandinoF Offline
                                    Frédéric Fiandino @pilleus
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                                    @pilleus Attention must also take into account the logic of the economic market.
                                    Suunto must conquer new users and unfortunately an Ambit 4 in the logic of the Ambit series would be today a commercial failure oposite the competition. Suunto does not have the means of Garmin, each new product must imperatively find his public.

                                    Regarding the OHR, it is to meet the demand of the market only, all people who want a specific data use a belt. The impoderables of the use of the OHR are too numerous to have a reliable data (movement of the wrist, cold, clothing, position …) the algorithms have their limits.

                                    Race
                                    S9P with a firmware too
                                    SSSWHR with a firmware inside
                                    Ambit 3 Run

                                    https://runalyze.com/athlete/Fred13270

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                                      A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

                                      @pilleus said in Suunto 5:

                                      I do not understand why there is no new watch without OHR (it’s not usable while riding a bike) and without touch screen. To obtain proper heart rate there is no alternative to a chest strap.

                                      Finally ! Someone said it 😄

                                      I said it many times - here and on Facebook. For every person with S9 who I follow, their entire runs are always all in zone 5. How is that useful? And, of course, all the derived VOMax metrics, if they were introduced on S9, would be complete garbage, as long as optical HR is used.

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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                                        @silentvoyager I have good OHR readings you can check my runs 😉 1/3 is with OHR if its slow one and you can detect some peaks at start 😉

                                        But I dont care about OHR per se. I prefer to remove + add something else

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                                        • plopes73P Offline
                                          plopes73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos +1 since I’ve moved the watch to my right wrist ✌


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                                            oeagleo @Brad_Olwin
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                                            @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 5:

                                            @suzzlo I understand you. The compactness of the 5 is nice. It does well without a barometer, I can show examples. I think it might do less well with small changes, my runs rarely have less than 300m.

                                            “Compactness”? It’s bigger than the Fenix 5+. But I guess it is smaller than the Fenix 5X+, so… 🙂

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