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    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

      Nope for sure not 3%

      Agreed not 3%

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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        dulko79
        last edited by

        Agreed not 3 % 😉

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        • whl_89W Offline
          whl_89 Bronze Member @dulko79
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          I bought my girlfriend a s5 and after a fews runs i am a bit confused because the ascent recorded by the watch is about 50% of the real ascent. I use the ssu. I know s5 has no baro but at least it should record the GPS ascent which is about the same i her from the ssu. Is this a known issue?

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          • Saketo NemoS Offline
            Saketo Nemo Moderator
            last edited by

            Have you tried a full vertical track, without d- ?
            Going from 300m to 800m should results 500d+, in S5 and also in SSU.

            In tracks where there are many up and down you will not have the same results because GPS device store d+ only each 7m gained, BARO device each 3m.

            btw, 50% less is too much…

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            • suzzloS Offline
              suzzlo Moderator @whl_89
              last edited by

              @whl_89 Same here with SSSW (no baro). Are ascend step sort? Usually in my 10-15k run with +400m always have less than +200m

              😞

              Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
              Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
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              • whl_89W Offline
                whl_89 Bronze Member @Saketo Nemo
                last edited by

                @Saketo-Nemo i just made two runs with ups and downs but both around 50% of actual ascent. I mean i am aware of the non existing baro in s5 but this huge differences are really bad for a 300€ device

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                • whl_89W Offline
                  whl_89 Bronze Member @suzzlo
                  last edited by

                  @suzzlo mixed ascents but shouldnt there bei an algorithm to overcome those recording gaps within those 7m?

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                  • Saketo NemoS Offline
                    Saketo Nemo Moderator
                    last edited by Saketo Nemo

                    just my curiosity: can you share the link of the two activity ? (also in pvt if you want)

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                    • whl_89W Offline
                      whl_89 Bronze Member @Saketo Nemo
                      last edited by

                      @Saketo-Nemo I will upload them later

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                      • whl_89W Offline
                        whl_89 Bronze Member @Saketo Nemo
                        last edited by

                        @Saketo-Nemo

                        S5:
                        link text

                        SSU:
                        link text

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                        • DuÅ¡an KovićD Offline
                          Dušan Ković
                          last edited by Dušan Ković

                          Out of curiosity, I wanted to see the altitude diference, so I imported both to QS:

                          S5:

                          suunto 5.jpg

                          SSU:

                          SSU.jpg

                          Both have similar graph shape and are in similar altitude ranges, but SSU seems a bit jagged compared to the S5 which looks smooth. Not sure which one is correct. But I’m guessing that SSU has more altitude difference because all those small spikes, also bigger drops in altitude on multiple places.

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                          • whl_89W Offline
                            whl_89 Bronze Member @Dušan Ković
                            last edited by

                            @Dušan-Ković If i plan this route in komoot or Suunto App altitude differences of ssu is quite correct and s5 ist about 50%. SSU works fine i think

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                            • DuÅ¡an KovićD Offline
                              Dušan Ković @whl_89
                              last edited by

                              @whl_89 One of my friends wants to buy S5, so I’m searching for possible problems with watch. Maybe this is one of the problems with S5. Have you tried GPS, GPS+GLONASS or GPS + GALILEO on the same route with S5?

                              SR
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                              Polar Verity Sense
                              Pixel 6

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                              • suzzloS Offline
                                suzzlo Moderator @whl_89
                                last edited by

                                @whl_89 same here

                                Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
                                Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
                                SA topics:

                                • Guides - https://forum.suunto.com/tags/guides
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                                • whl_89W Offline
                                  whl_89 Bronze Member @Dušan Ković
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dušan-Ković i would still recommend it great watch

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                                  • Armin S.A Offline
                                    Armin S. @Dušan Ković
                                    last edited by Armin S.

                                    @Dušan-Ković YES, there is a little problem ☺
                                    Run 16.6. with S5 GPS+Galileo. After 0:30 it’s very faulty:
                                    F1999941-C0D7-4AEA-AF8A-305FA573349E.jpeg
                                    Same route 10.6. with S3F (connected GPS):
                                    4E49D0ED-1F8C-460E-A516-9749018DA5DC.jpeg
                                    Same days and same routs exports to Strava:
                                    16.6.
                                    911DC142-3DCE-4B3F-AD90-562D8FAAFEFC.jpeg
                                    10.6.
                                    345CAFAE-87CA-4C2A-9ECA-11E3CED13A0F.jpeg

                                    Start level 40…42m, highest point 50…52m would be correct!

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                                    • sartoricS Offline
                                      sartoric Moderator @Dušan Ković
                                      last edited by sartoric

                                      @Dušan-Ković said in Suunto 5:

                                      @whl_89 One of my friends wants to buy S5, so I’m searching for possible problems with watch. Maybe this is one of the problems with S5. Have you tried GPS, GPS+GLONASS or GPS + GALILEO on the same route with S5?

                                      My 2 cents … if he’s some kind of mountaineer , tell him to go for a baro watch otherwise GPS only is ok.

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                                      • DuÅ¡an KovićD Offline
                                        Dušan Ković @sartoric
                                        last edited by Dušan Ković

                                        @sartoric @Armin-S @whl_89 Thanks to all. I’ll send him the link to this thread 🙂

                                        SR
                                        SA latest beta
                                        Polar Verity Sense
                                        Pixel 6

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                                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @whl_89
                                          last edited by Brad_Olwin

                                          @whl_89 said in Suunto 5:

                                          I bought my girlfriend a s5 and after a fews runs i am a bit confused because the ascent recorded by the watch is about 50% of the real ascent. I use the ssu. I know s5 has no baro but at least it should record the GPS ascent which is about the same i her from the ssu. Is this a known issue?

                                          I have done a lot of runs with both the S5 and S9 together, most of the time on the same arm. The S5 is always short in altitude, I mentioned this much earlier in the thread. If you care a lot about real time vertical it is not the right watch. However, I rarely see 50%, most of the time my differences are below 20%. The worst scenario for the S5 are lots of small hills as it does not record a change unless 7m. On big climbs it is much better. If you like I can post some of my SkiMo runs or runs with at least 500m altitude change. I do think that GSP+Galileo gives better altitude readings on the S5 but I have not thoroughly analyzed this yet. Third party sites (Strava, etc) will correct the altitude so in the end it isn’t that big a deal in my opinion.
                                          I still think the S5 is a great watch and most of the time I use it for my weekday runs and just let the 3rd party apps correct the altitude. The SSU and S5 should be similar for ascent. Make sure AGPS is current and I would use GPS+Galileo.

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          • DuÅ¡an KovićD Offline
                                            Dušan Ković @Brad_Olwin
                                            last edited by

                                            @Brad_Olwin maybe suunto app should add altitude correction as one of the features. So users can choose to see corrected altitude and original as watch recorded

                                            SR
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                                            Polar Verity Sense
                                            Pixel 6

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