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    • whl_89W Offline
      whl_89 Bronze Member @Saketo Nemo
      last edited by

      @Saketo-Nemo i just made two runs with ups and downs but both around 50% of actual ascent. I mean i am aware of the non existing baro in s5 but this huge differences are really bad for a 300€ device

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      • whl_89W Offline
        whl_89 Bronze Member @suzzlo
        last edited by

        @suzzlo mixed ascents but shouldnt there bei an algorithm to overcome those recording gaps within those 7m?

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        • Saketo NemoS Offline
          Saketo Nemo Moderator
          last edited by Saketo Nemo

          just my curiosity: can you share the link of the two activity ? (also in pvt if you want)

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          • whl_89W Offline
            whl_89 Bronze Member @Saketo Nemo
            last edited by

            @Saketo-Nemo I will upload them later

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            • whl_89W Offline
              whl_89 Bronze Member @Saketo Nemo
              last edited by

              @Saketo-Nemo

              S5:
              link text

              SSU:
              link text

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              • Dušan KovićD Offline
                Dušan Ković
                last edited by Dušan Ković

                Out of curiosity, I wanted to see the altitude diference, so I imported both to QS:

                S5:

                suunto 5.jpg

                SSU:

                SSU.jpg

                Both have similar graph shape and are in similar altitude ranges, but SSU seems a bit jagged compared to the S5 which looks smooth. Not sure which one is correct. But I’m guessing that SSU has more altitude difference because all those small spikes, also bigger drops in altitude on multiple places.

                SR
                SA latest beta
                Polar Verity Sense
                Pixel 6

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                • whl_89W Offline
                  whl_89 Bronze Member @Dušan Ković
                  last edited by

                  @Dušan-Ković If i plan this route in komoot or Suunto App altitude differences of ssu is quite correct and s5 ist about 50%. SSU works fine i think

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                  • Dušan KovićD Offline
                    Dušan Ković @whl_89
                    last edited by

                    @whl_89 One of my friends wants to buy S5, so I’m searching for possible problems with watch. Maybe this is one of the problems with S5. Have you tried GPS, GPS+GLONASS or GPS + GALILEO on the same route with S5?

                    SR
                    SA latest beta
                    Polar Verity Sense
                    Pixel 6

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                    • suzzloS Offline
                      suzzlo Moderator @whl_89
                      last edited by

                      @whl_89 same here

                      Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
                      Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
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                      • whl_89W Offline
                        whl_89 Bronze Member @Dušan Ković
                        last edited by

                        @Dušan-Ković i would still recommend it great watch

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                        • Armin S.A Offline
                          Armin S. @Dušan Ković
                          last edited by Armin S.

                          @Dušan-Ković YES, there is a little problem ☺
                          Run 16.6. with S5 GPS+Galileo. After 0:30 it’s very faulty:
                          F1999941-C0D7-4AEA-AF8A-305FA573349E.jpeg
                          Same route 10.6. with S3F (connected GPS):
                          4E49D0ED-1F8C-460E-A516-9749018DA5DC.jpeg
                          Same days and same routs exports to Strava:
                          16.6.
                          911DC142-3DCE-4B3F-AD90-562D8FAAFEFC.jpeg
                          10.6.
                          345CAFAE-87CA-4C2A-9ECA-11E3CED13A0F.jpeg

                          Start level 40…42m, highest point 50…52m would be correct!

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                          • sartoricS Offline
                            sartoric Moderator @Dušan Ković
                            last edited by sartoric

                            @Dušan-Ković said in Suunto 5:

                            @whl_89 One of my friends wants to buy S5, so I’m searching for possible problems with watch. Maybe this is one of the problems with S5. Have you tried GPS, GPS+GLONASS or GPS + GALILEO on the same route with S5?

                            My 2 cents … if he’s some kind of mountaineer , tell him to go for a baro watch otherwise GPS only is ok.

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                            • Dušan KovićD Offline
                              Dušan Ković @sartoric
                              last edited by Dušan Ković

                              @sartoric @Armin-S @whl_89 Thanks to all. I’ll send him the link to this thread 🙂

                              SR
                              SA latest beta
                              Polar Verity Sense
                              Pixel 6

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                              • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @whl_89
                                last edited by Brad_Olwin

                                @whl_89 said in Suunto 5:

                                I bought my girlfriend a s5 and after a fews runs i am a bit confused because the ascent recorded by the watch is about 50% of the real ascent. I use the ssu. I know s5 has no baro but at least it should record the GPS ascent which is about the same i her from the ssu. Is this a known issue?

                                I have done a lot of runs with both the S5 and S9 together, most of the time on the same arm. The S5 is always short in altitude, I mentioned this much earlier in the thread. If you care a lot about real time vertical it is not the right watch. However, I rarely see 50%, most of the time my differences are below 20%. The worst scenario for the S5 are lots of small hills as it does not record a change unless 7m. On big climbs it is much better. If you like I can post some of my SkiMo runs or runs with at least 500m altitude change. I do think that GSP+Galileo gives better altitude readings on the S5 but I have not thoroughly analyzed this yet. Third party sites (Strava, etc) will correct the altitude so in the end it isn’t that big a deal in my opinion.
                                I still think the S5 is a great watch and most of the time I use it for my weekday runs and just let the 3rd party apps correct the altitude. The SSU and S5 should be similar for ascent. Make sure AGPS is current and I would use GPS+Galileo.

                                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                  Dušan Ković @Brad_Olwin
                                  last edited by

                                  @Brad_Olwin maybe suunto app should add altitude correction as one of the features. So users can choose to see corrected altitude and original as watch recorded

                                  SR
                                  SA latest beta
                                  Polar Verity Sense
                                  Pixel 6

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                                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dušan Ković
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dušan-Ković Probably not a bad idea but… if you have more than one watch as do I, I would want the setting toggled. Better yet, the app could detect you have a watch with no barometer and automatically correct. Maybe this should be added as a feature suggestion?

                                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                    • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                      Dušan Ković @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by

                                      @Brad_Olwin I don’t have two watches, I only have S9B, but elevation correction would be good for users with non Baro watches. It should be implemented to SA. Also, users with Baro watches could check if altitudes are correct.

                                      SR
                                      SA latest beta
                                      Polar Verity Sense
                                      Pixel 6

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                                      • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dušan Ković
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dušan-Ković said in Suunto 5:

                                        @Brad_Olwin I don’t have two watches, I only have S9B, but elevation correction would be good for users with non Baro watches. It should be implemented to SA. Also, users with Baro watches could check if altitudes are correct.

                                        The correction for Altitude is less precise than the barometric watches, I have checked this many times on Training Peaks. It depends on the filters are algorithms used.

                                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                        • D Offline
                                          dulko79
                                          last edited by

                                          One little remark regarding the strap. During sport activity the watch should be worn 2 fingers above the wrist bone to get good HR reading. For some users due to this position the strap could be too short or on the limit, therefore slight increase of strap length could be useful. ☺

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                                          • vicarokaV Offline
                                            vicaroka
                                            last edited by

                                            Hi!

                                            I am a new Suunto 5 user, and the watch keeps restarting and freezing after some minutes. The down arrow is displayed, and after a hard reset, the issue repeats after some minutes. Did software update to latest, not using movescount (only Suunto app).
                                            Any suggestions?

                                            Many thanks.
                                            KR

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