Spartan update complains

mraka

Thank Universe i bought Ambit3 instead SSU a month ago. Saved me this stress for less money, and A3 works like a charm.

borgelkranz

Wishing on a star, too. Since day one of the Spartan release, by the way…

fejker

@borgelkranz same here, got the Spartan for premium high price in August 2016.

zhang965

I still have my spartan ultra copper edition

theorydude

After reading through multiple forums, I have the impression that Suunto will not be supporting swim functions beyond basic lap swimming - is that a fair perception? It seems that the majority of all comments have to do with land-based activity updates, and hardly anyone makes any comments about swimming. The Ambit 3 was the last watch to have real swim functionality.

Brad_Olwin

@suzzlo Primarily no FB features for Spartans as the majority need 24/7 HR and that is not possible with the Spartans.

Brad_Olwin

@zhang965 That is a nice watch…my favorite color, I almost purchased one.

suzzlo

@Brad_Olwin ? I have 24/7 HR in my Spartan. Perhaps something related to RR?

BR

Frédéric Fiandino

@Brad_Olwin said in Spartan update complains:

@suzzlo Primarily no FB features for Spartans as the majority need 24/7 HR and that is not possible with the Spartans.

hi, can you explain this ?
There are SSUs without OHRs and SSSs / SSTs with OHRs

zhang965

@Frédéric-Fiandino
why do you need any explain ? i don’t get it

mraka

@suzzlo said in Spartan update complains:

Let’s see if Suunto has some November Santa gift (FW+SA) for Spartan users…

Sad thing here is that all this is just another industry/marketing(let people talk and hope about our product) hype bullshit.
Like they could just announce that this long awaited update will be only for S3-9. And that SSU update will come latter, if it comes at all, (but it has to come if they want keep selling anything in the future).

I could easily fall for this, and “knowing” that update is coming in October go ahead and buy SSU for 450 euro. But something stank during my research, and i went for A3 Peak for 266 euro. And btw A3 was built in 2019. while SSU in 2016. or 2017.

Be honest, listen to your customers, give them legit announcements regarding new products/product updates. And i bet in return you get far more respect and loyalty from your customers/clients then this secretsy bullshit.

But they will not, because this is all just hyper-production, hyper-marketing, hyper-money making age we live in.

Brad_Olwin

@suzzlo Yep the WHR models do have 24/7 and OHR, it is a good question and could potentially be hardware dependent.

Brad_Olwin

@Frédéric-Fiandino My bad!

Brad_Olwin

@mraka I stated this in a prior post but the Spartan development was much more significant than the S series, I bought an Ultra when it was released and it is nothing near the watch you have now. Similar complaints were made with the Ambit series upgrades, which I also owned. I think Suunto did an amazing job with Spartan development.

Frédéric Fiandino

@zhang965 What do not you understand ?
Perhaps Brad had technical information explaining the impossibility of implementing features FB on the all Spartan series

mraka

@Brad_Olwin said in Spartan update complains:

@mraka I stated this in a prior post but the Spartan development was much more significant than the S series, I bought an Ultra when it was released and it is nothing near the watch you have now. Similar complaints were made with the Ambit series upgrades, which I also owned. I think Suunto did an amazing job with Spartan development.

I didn’t say SSU is not a good watch, and that it didn’t get updates. Just people are waiting for more much needed (as i read) updates, and i am sure that those are coming, but tell people what is coming and what is not coming in next update. Make honest kind of connection with customers…

Honestly, i prefer SSU over S. But it is just not there yet. Specially for that amount of money, that is my opinion.

Fenr1r

@mraka Re: your earlier post

No disagreement on your wider points of tech business but are you sure you have not fallen into the same trap you describe? Full A3PS integration into SA is a similar ambition/hint/aspiration (“hype bullshit”) rather than promise. Older models may get less and less connectable as the app develops and MC(web)'s continuation becomes a lost dream.

mraka

@Fenr1r said in Spartan update complains:

@mraka Re: your earlier post

No disagreement on your wider points of tech business but are you sure you have not fallen into the same trap you describe? Full A3PS integration into SA is a similar ambition/hint/aspiration (“hype bullshit”) rather than promise. Older models may get less and less connectable as the app develops and MC(web)'s continuation becomes a lost dream.

Good point Sure i did nice research before i bought my watch. There is no official statement, but from what i have found they will continue to make older models connectable in the future. (ops, just found official statement:
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/2595/may-transition-update) - but its still shallow as hell

But you didnt understand me quite well i think. I didn’t say they give false advertisement for future updates, like they say something is coming and it doesn’t come ever. I sad that they should improve community communication in terms of giving people full announcements, not partial.

Fenr1r

@mraka I got your point; I was just interested that you still showed optimism (faith, even: similar to @TELE-HO) in buying the A3PS without guarantee of continued connectivity (and warnings to the contrary). In practice Suunto, for all their lack of transparency on this, got a sale to a cynic.

No criticism: I made (in retrospect) inadvisable assumptions on eventual feature development/recovery on the SSU.

mraka

@Fenr1r Optimism and faith come from good research, i didn’t buy it just like that… Plus, now they seem to confirm it with this new announcement. And as shallow as it may be, i think that the support will be full (there’s your optimism and faith right there)