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    Brad_Olwin Moderator @suzzlo
    last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 02:47

    @suzzlo Primarily no FB features for Spartans as the majority need 24/7 HR and that is not possible with the Spartans.

    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
      last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 02:48

      @zhang965 That is a nice watch…my favorite color, I almost purchased one.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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        suzzlo Moderator @Brad_Olwin
        last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 06:04

        @Brad_Olwin ? I have 24/7 HR in my Spartan. Perhaps something related to RR?

        BR

        Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
        Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
        SA topics:

        • Guides - https://forum.suunto.com/tags/guides
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          Frédéric Fiandino @Brad_Olwin
          last edited by Frédéric Fiandino 30 Oct 2019, 06:19

          @Brad_Olwin said in Spartan update complains:

          @suzzlo Primarily no FB features for Spartans as the majority need 24/7 HR and that is not possible with the Spartans.

          hi, can you explain this ?
          There are SSUs without OHRs and SSSs / SSTs with OHRs

          Race
          S9P with a firmware too
          SSSWHR with a firmware inside
          Ambit 3 Run

          https://runalyze.com/athlete/Fred13270

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            zhang965 @Frédéric Fiandino
            last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 11:13

            @Frédéric-Fiandino
            why do you need any explain ? i don’t get it

            Winners Wear Winners

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              mraka Bronze Member @suzzlo
              last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 12:54

              @suzzlo said in Spartan update complains:

              Let’s see if Suunto has some November Santa gift (FW+SA) for Spartan users…

              🤞 🤞 🤞

              Sad thing here is that all this is just another industry/marketing(let people talk and hope about our product) hype bullshit.
              Like they could just announce that this long awaited update will be only for S3-9. And that SSU update will come latter, if it comes at all, (but it has to come if they want keep selling anything in the future).

              I could easily fall for this, and “knowing” that update is coming in October go ahead and buy SSU for 450 euro. But something stank during my research, and i went for A3 Peak for 266 euro. And btw A3 was built in 2019. while SSU in 2016. or 2017.

              Be honest, listen to your customers, give them legit announcements regarding new products/product updates. And i bet in return you get far more respect and loyalty from your customers/clients then this secretsy bullshit.

              But they will not, because this is all just hyper-production, hyper-marketing, hyper-money making age we live in.

              Vertical Solar Titanium
              Ambit3 Peak Black

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @suzzlo
                last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 12:57

                @suzzlo Yep the WHR models do have 24/7 and OHR, it is a good question and could potentially be hardware dependent.

                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Frédéric Fiandino
                  last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 12:57

                  @Frédéric-Fiandino My bad!

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @mraka
                    last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 12:59

                    @mraka I stated this in a prior post but the Spartan development was much more significant than the S series, I bought an Ultra when it was released and it is nothing near the watch you have now. Similar complaints were made with the Ambit series upgrades, which I also owned. I think Suunto did an amazing job with Spartan development.

                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                      Frédéric Fiandino @zhang965
                      last edited by Frédéric Fiandino 30 Oct 2019, 13:04

                      @zhang965 What do not you understand ?
                      Perhaps Brad had technical information explaining the impossibility of implementing features FB on the all Spartan series

                      Race
                      S9P with a firmware too
                      SSSWHR with a firmware inside
                      Ambit 3 Run

                      https://runalyze.com/athlete/Fred13270

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                        mraka Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 13:12

                        @Brad_Olwin said in Spartan update complains:

                        @mraka I stated this in a prior post but the Spartan development was much more significant than the S series, I bought an Ultra when it was released and it is nothing near the watch you have now. Similar complaints were made with the Ambit series upgrades, which I also owned. I think Suunto did an amazing job with Spartan development.

                        I didn’t say SSU is not a good watch, and that it didn’t get updates. Just people are waiting for more much needed (as i read) updates, and i am sure that those are coming, but tell people what is coming and what is not coming in next update. Make honest kind of connection with customers…

                        Honestly, i prefer SSU over S. But it is just not there yet. Specially for that amount of money, that is my opinion.

                        Vertical Solar Titanium
                        Ambit3 Peak Black

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                          Fenr1r @mraka
                          last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 13:18

                          @mraka Re: your earlier post

                          No disagreement on your wider points of tech business but are you sure you have not fallen into the same trap you describe? Full A3PS integration into SA is a similar ambition/hint/aspiration (“hype bullshit”) rather than promise. Older models may get less and less connectable as the app develops and MC(web)'s continuation becomes a lost dream.

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                            mraka Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                            last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 13:31

                            @Fenr1r said in Spartan update complains:

                            @mraka Re: your earlier post

                            No disagreement on your wider points of tech business but are you sure you have not fallen into the same trap you describe? Full A3PS integration into SA is a similar ambition/hint/aspiration (“hype bullshit”) rather than promise. Older models may get less and less connectable as the app develops and MC(web)'s continuation becomes a lost dream.

                            Good point 🙂 Sure i did nice research before i bought my watch. There is no official statement, but from what i have found they will continue to make older models connectable in the future. (ops, just found official statement:
                            https://forum.suunto.com/topic/2595/may-transition-update) - but its still shallow as hell 😅

                            But you didnt understand me quite well i think. I didn’t say they give false advertisement for future updates, like they say something is coming and it doesn’t come ever. I sad that they should improve community communication in terms of giving people full announcements, not partial.

                            Vertical Solar Titanium
                            Ambit3 Peak Black

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                              Fenr1r @mraka
                              last edited by Fenr1r 30 Oct 2019, 13:48

                              @mraka I got your point; I was just interested that you still showed optimism (faith, even: similar to @TELE-HO) in buying the A3PS without guarantee of continued connectivity (and warnings to the contrary). In practice Suunto, for all their lack of transparency on this, got a sale to a cynic.

                              No criticism: I made (in retrospect) inadvisable assumptions on eventual feature development/recovery on the SSU.

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                                mraka Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                                last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 15:06

                                @Fenr1r Optimism and faith come from good research, i didn’t buy it just like that… 🙂 Plus, now they seem to confirm it with this new announcement. And as shallow as it may be, i think that the support will be full (there’s your optimism and faith right there) 🙂

                                Vertical Solar Titanium
                                Ambit3 Peak Black

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                                  Fenr1r @mraka
                                  last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 15:14

                                  @mraka Fair enough, I reckon. Hope Suunto come through for you.

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                                    borgelkranz Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                                    last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 16:14

                                    @Fenr1r said in Spartan update complains:

                                    […] I made (in retrospect) inadvisable assumptions on eventual feature development/recovery on the SSU.

                                    So did I. I bought my SSU on day one for 698.99 € to replace my Ambit 2r. When buying it (August 2016) I thought i had bought the flagship model and not the budget one.

                                    Then I had to realise that this watch performed worse than my Ambit 2r in almost any respect. When it finally was acceptable (May 2018), I began to regain hope. Until (from my perspective) suddenly new models were popping up.

                                    Now I begin to feel that I never bought a flagship model but a dead product unfinished product that never will be finished.

                                    In retrospection, it deeply angers me that I advised people to buy Suunto Spartan models because I hoped for the best.

                                    Enough letting off steam…

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                                      zhang965
                                      last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 16:23

                                      Yes, I do understand,
                                      My spartan ultra,it doesn’t even have a decent “do not distribute” function util the end of 2018, six months after Suunto 9 released.

                                      Winners Wear Winners

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                                        BobMiles Bronze Member @borgelkranz
                                        last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 16:25

                                        @borgelkranz my story exactly. It’s a trap.

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                                          zhang965
                                          last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 16:31

                                          when spartan ultra releases, we asked why it comes without OHR, they told because OHR is not a stable solution for any kind of sportive,

                                          we trusted them.

                                          then spartan HR gets out,

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