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      mraka Bronze Member @Fenr1r
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      @Fenr1r Optimism and faith come from good research, i didn’t buy it just like that… 🙂 Plus, now they seem to confirm it with this new announcement. And as shallow as it may be, i think that the support will be full (there’s your optimism and faith right there) 🙂

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        Fenr1r @mraka
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        @mraka Fair enough, I reckon. Hope Suunto come through for you.

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          borgelkranz Bronze Member @Fenr1r
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          @Fenr1r said in Spartan update complains:

          […] I made (in retrospect) inadvisable assumptions on eventual feature development/recovery on the SSU.

          So did I. I bought my SSU on day one for 698.99 € to replace my Ambit 2r. When buying it (August 2016) I thought i had bought the flagship model and not the budget one.

          Then I had to realise that this watch performed worse than my Ambit 2r in almost any respect. When it finally was acceptable (May 2018), I began to regain hope. Until (from my perspective) suddenly new models were popping up.

          Now I begin to feel that I never bought a flagship model but a dead product unfinished product that never will be finished.

          In retrospection, it deeply angers me that I advised people to buy Suunto Spartan models because I hoped for the best.

          Enough letting off steam…

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          • zhang965Z Offline
            zhang965
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            Yes, I do understand,
            My spartan ultra,it doesn’t even have a decent “do not distribute” function util the end of 2018, six months after Suunto 9 released.

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              BobMiles Bronze Member @borgelkranz
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              @borgelkranz my story exactly. It’s a trap.

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              • zhang965Z Offline
                zhang965
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                when spartan ultra releases, we asked why it comes without OHR, they told because OHR is not a stable solution for any kind of sportive,

                we trusted them.

                then spartan HR gets out,

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @borgelkranz
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                  @borgelkranz I feel differently. I went from A3P to Spartan, I found the screen much more readable. The OK setting for GPS on my SSU was far, far better than the 5 sec fix on the A3P. The A3P distance to waypoints was direct, as the bird flies and on the Spartan it was not. For me these were definite and important upgrades. I used my SSU a lot until the S9, which I purchased expressly for battery life. Perhaps you should state what was missing from the SSU that you needed. For me, nothing and had the S9 not improved on functions that I need and use, I would still have my SSU. I would prefer not to have OHR.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  • zhang965Z Offline
                    zhang965
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                    As an old ambit 3 user, I search everywhere in Spartan Ultra for the Vo2max and recovery test.

                    I read the user guide in three different languages and I realized there is no such things.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
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                      @zhang965 Agreed, I would have liked to have the recovery test, the S9 does not have this either. I found it useful. VO2 max on the other hand I consider more or less useless. My laboratory VO2 tests do not match the watch, perhaps that is me but I more or less ignore the VO2. With 24/7 OHR I think a much better job of recovery could be done and I wish this was a focus.

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
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                        @borgelkranz My commiserations. I picked up mine a bit after that May '18 revision, when it seemed that the bugs had been ironed out and the hardware (still mostly pretty good) had finally got FW just about worthy of it. And just before the newer ones emerged. My price was … less.

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                        • zhang965Z Offline
                          zhang965
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                          and my SSU’s baro is finally dead a couple of months age,

                          as Suunto gives the first production two years guarantee, I replaced the watch.

                          Winners Wear Winners

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                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
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                            @zhang965 said in Spartan update complains:

                            and my SSU’s baro is finally dead a couple of months age,

                            as Suunto gives the first production two years guarantee, I replaced the watch.

                            Excellent, you then got a great deal.

                            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                              Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
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                              @Brad_Olwin Does that S9 battery life advantage over the SSU work at hiking speeds? For some reason I thought it was a function of FusedTrack which, as I understand it, only works when one is running.

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                                Valerio Portesi @borgelkranz
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                                @borgelkranz I’m perfectly agree with you. it took two years to make the SSU work well (or at least in relation to the cost) and now after only one year of full potential use (except last-minute surprises) we find that the watch is obsolete and will not receive any more functionality implementations (but perhaps only bug fixes)

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                                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
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                                  @Fenr1r Yes, it does. I am often at hiking speeds. I have used the battery feature for multiday excursions, some of my time is jogging, some hiking and some slow acsents.

                                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
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                                    @zhang965 They are correct , at least with the technology in the S9. Mine only works for walking, the gym and daily HR. Any running, hiking and especially trail running it simply does not work for me. I have seen it work for others but not that often.

                                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                      Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
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                                      @Brad_Olwin Intriguing. Thanks.

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                                        borgelkranz Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                                        @Brad_Olwin said in Spartan update complains:

                                        @borgelkranz I feel differently.

                                        That’s absolutely fine with me. Your feelings are yours and mine are mine.

                                        Concerning your other questions: back with my Ambit 2R that I bought because I could not afford a regular Ambit 2s I envied the updates that the bigger models received.

                                        That’s why I decided to buy the biggest model next time.

                                        Well, that was a mistake. Just like buying a Windows Phone was. My bad(s).

                                        The lessen I earned (pun intended) is to never again buy a new product. Regardless of the manufacturer’s reputation.

                                        Concerning my SSU: in fact it let’s me do most of the things that I do. Hiking, biking and running. All three for recreational purposes.

                                        Still I hoped for features like training plans (I had them with MC), recovery test, performance index and such.

                                        Maybe I have to admit to myself that I bought a product that is aimed at another market than the one I’m supposed to be a buyer in.

                                        But even then I am puzzled at the way Suunto presents their products. Probably I’d need an S5 with a baro. But that’s not be had…

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                                          Jessica Monk Bronze Member @borgelkranz
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                                          @borgelkranz said in Spartan update complains:

                                          Just like buying a Windows Phone was. My bad(s).

                                          Lol. I did that too 🙂 I wanted Windows phone to take off so bad, but here I am 2 years later, Android in hand 😛

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                                            SlaSh Platinum Member
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                                            Done espect FB to come to spartan line as it is purely licensing cost question and in other hand when why to buy Sx line when cheaper spartan will have the same.
                                            Marketing departments now own companies and no matter it is sport watch manufacturers or else, this happens everywhere and shouldn’t be new for you guys 😉
                                            Age when stuff was made to last has ended long time ago…

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