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    Nick Vlahandreas
    last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 10:43

    Thanks Dimitrios.

    I can rule out 1 and 2 as I’ve alwways worn my watch on this hand and had no issues for a year. Secondly, the watch is brand new and the sensors are no dirty.

    So, I’d be more than grateful if you can help me out with another new unit.

    Regards,

    Nick

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Nick Vlahandreas
      last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 10:51

      @Nick-Vlahandreas I do see those dips there so please first give a chance to rule those out please. Even if the watch is new , this can happen typically when eg shower foam / soap condenses.

      That said, if you insist, open a case normally though support (support@suunto.com) and pm me the case number.

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        zvonejan Bronze Member @Nick Vlahandreas
        last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 12:37

        @Nick-Vlahandreas said in Continued Incorrect Ascent Readings:

        Thanks Dimitrios.

        I can rule out 1 and 2 as I’ve alwways worn my watch on this hand and had no issues for a year. Secondly, the watch is brand new and the sensors are no dirty.

        So, I’d be more than grateful if you can help me out with another new unit.

        Regards,

        Nick

        This is not normal. And your second watch!!?? It is got to be something with your setting. Do you use altimeter, barometer or automatic mode for altitude?

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
          last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 12:42

          @zvonejan those are not used anymore 😕

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            nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 12:45

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos enlighten me about this please, even if a MC is used?

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              zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 12:46

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Continued Incorrect Ascent Readings:

              @zvonejan those are not used anymore 😕

              ups :). yes only in movescount and ambit 3. sorry

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @nseslija
                last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 12:58

                @nseslija he uses Suunto app

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
                  last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 12:59

                  @zvonejan also S+Spartans but it’s no longer needed. (Altitude is the best option atm)

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                    nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 13:09

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, thanks, I was wondering if this is still around for SA use only…

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                      zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by zvonejan 3 Feb 2020, 13:12 2 Mar 2020, 13:11

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Continued Incorrect Ascent Readings:

                      @zvonejan also S+Spartans but it’s no longer needed. (Altitude is the best option atm)

                      Watch measure air presure and shows that like altitude. We all know that air preasure changes can came from 2 sides ( altitude, barometric changes). So if you run around stadium, suunto 9 can show you altitude changes, which is ridiculous. On ambit you just set to barometer and all changes are consider as weather changes and that is 100% correct. Am I wrong, Dimitri? 🙂

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                        sartoric Moderator @zvonejan
                        last edited by sartoric 3 Feb 2020, 14:04 2 Mar 2020, 14:03

                        @zvonejan said in Continued Incorrect Ascent Readings:

                        2 sides ( altitude, barometric changes)

                        actually, barometric changes (the sensor is a barometer) will be interpreted as altitude or weather changes.

                        For Ambit (and in the past for Spartans+S in MC) you can set in which way sensor data must be used.
                        Readings are 100% correct if you set this option correctly 😁
                        Now on Spartans+S this option is “always” set to automatic and switches based on the other data

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                          zvonejan Bronze Member @sartoric
                          last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 14:16

                          @sartoric said in Continued Incorrect Ascent Readings:

                          @zvonejan said in Continued Incorrect Ascent Readings:

                          Readings are 100% correct if you set this option correctly 😁

                          Only on stadium with barometer mode. If you set watch to altitude or automatic mode and run trail running, there is no guarantee, that all ascent difference is from altitude (some percentage is definitelly from weather changes). Only for old suunto watches of course

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                            sartoric Moderator @zvonejan
                            last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 14:34

                            @zvonejan
                            Well, yes, if you do trail running in “alti” mode and the weather is rapidly changing too the result could be distorted

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                              freeheeler @Nick Vlahandreas
                              last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 14:40

                              @Nick-Vlahandreas
                              try Dimitrios’ suggestion with the buff…
                              I can write books about wrong readings when the strap is too tight or when the wrist position pushes the watch against the arm e.g. during gym workouts etc

                              living sideways

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
                                last edited by 2 Mar 2020, 16:57

                                @zvonejan no you are absolutely right. Not only for that sport of course. If I recall correct (will check that for you) the track and field mode has that set for you. Of course to have some customization (ability to select) is welcome. I wont argue.

                                That said, have you used the track and field mode and got asc/desc values ?

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                                  mario_b @Nick Vlahandreas
                                  last edited by 3 Mar 2020, 05:10

                                  @Nick-Vlahandreas what does the ascent/descent values look like in the watch? when you review the activity? do you see the same?

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @mario_b
                                    last edited by 3 Mar 2020, 07:56

                                    @mario_b I checked it for him yes they are the same.

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                                      mario_b @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 3 Mar 2020, 20:44

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ah ok. i think the .fit file would be nice. another test would be choosing (just for testing) running while mountain biking. if that would not count the small up’s and downs, so it would only be a problem with the calculation under the mountain biking profile/app/sport activity.

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                                        mario_b @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 3 Mar 2020, 20:58

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos looking at the jumps i think with the fit file, an fit file explorer (viewer) would show nearly 1200-1300 hm too. because this jumps are not 1 or to meters. more 4-5 meters and very often. adding them together it would result in this high number. i don’t know the track. but if there are many small hills, it would be possible.

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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @mario_b
                                          last edited by 4 Mar 2020, 08:32

                                          @mario_b I passed it to a DEM and the user is right. Those ±5-10m dips should not be there. There is something wrong with the device or the way its used .

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