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    Random reboots of the Suunto 7 during recording an activity

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    • olymayO Offline
      olymay Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Here is my info…

      I use the standard (basic) running mode, following a route.

      If I stay on the default data screen, all is ok. Scrolling to the map view seems to trigger the problem.

      I do not exit the app whilst recording as I want my info shown all of the time. The crash/reboot exits the app for me.

      I do not receive a phone call and this would not be possible as I do not take my phone with me.

      The music controls do not pop-up as I have the auto launch media controls off.

      If you need anything else, please ask.

      (I will reiterate, I believe it to be linked to the power saver tilt funtion).

      Suunto 7 Graphite Copper
      Suunto App Beta (Android - Pixel 6 Pro)

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        Robert_mp
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Here is my info:

        • Sport mode: custom of trekking with: 4 fields screen, 3 fields screen, altitude graphic screen, map screen
        • Last display: map view, but I’m not really sure
        • Exit the app while recording: No, it get blocked on the map screen view with the options in blank (I put the image in a comment above)
        • Phone call: no
        • Music controls: no (airplane mode)
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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @olymay
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          @olymay thanks

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Robert_mp
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            @Robert_mp said in Random reboots of the Suunto 7 during recording an activity:

            Sport mode: custom of trekking with: 4 fields screen, 3 fields screen, altitude graphic screen, map screen
            Last display: map view, but I’m not really sure
            Exit the app while recording: No, it get blocked on the map screen view with the options in blank (I put the image in a comment above)
            Phone call: no
            Music controls: no (airplane mode)

            thank you

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              isazi Moderator @olymay
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              @olymay said in Random reboots of the Suunto 7 during recording an activity:

              If I stay on the default data screen, all is ok. Scrolling to the map view seems to trigger the problem.

              Same here, it seems I’m also affected by the bug now. If I go to the map, the app is not capable of going back to low power mode. The activity is recorded, but I cannot stay in the app anymore, I’m forced to the watch face.

              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                Hi again (yes playing the man in the middle 😄 )

                Do you have always on map enabled or disabled? Or does it happen with both values?

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                  Robert_mp @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by Robert_mp

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Random reboots of the Suunto 7 during recording an activity:

                  Hi again (yes playing the man in the middle 😄 )

                  Do you have always on map enabled or disabled? Or does it happen with both values?

                  In my case, always on map disabled (save battery mode)
                  I always run activities in this mode.

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                  • olymayO Offline
                    olymay Gold Members @isazi
                    last edited by

                    @isazi This is EXACTLY what is happening to me 😞

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                    • olymayO Offline
                      olymay Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I usually run with always on map ENABLED as I don’t like the small delay in the screen waking up.

                      But I have tried it with this setting both enabled and disabled and the problem is there regardless.

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                      Suunto App Beta (Android - Pixel 6 Pro)

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                        sherani @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have not found any difference, the problem occurs in both cases on mine and two other S7s.

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                          isazi Moderator @olymay
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                          @olymay so I tried another activity, and the watch was still in the “faulty” mode, therefore I was thrown back to the watch face without even having to check the map. Then did a restart of the watch, and now it is working properly again, although I did not check the map (because I did not need it, and because I feel it would trigger the bug again).

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                          • olymayO Offline
                            olymay Gold Members
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                            I am not long back from doing a run. I did the exact same 10K route as the previous three runs and I tracked the route as I did before.
                            All of the settings on the watch were exactly the same as the my previous run.

                            The difference this time was I did not scroll away from the default data screen.

                            The watch did not crash!

                            Therefore, I now very strongly believe that by scrolling to the map view, this re-activates the ‘power save tilt’ (I have verified that it does do this) which in turn causes the Suunto Wear App to crash.

                            Suunto developers, please take note, the ‘power saver tilt’ is crippling the Suunto 7. Please, please, please fix this bug or permanently disable this feature.

                            Suunto 7 Graphite Copper
                            Suunto App Beta (Android - Pixel 6 Pro)

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                              Hi! Today I had no problems during my activity with the option “power save tilt” desactivated.
                              I’ve made a trekking of 12km and 5h20’ following a track and playing a lot with the map view.
                              The screen of altitude profile worked more fluent than last time (only a bit). I’ve suffered lot of lag also in other activities with the screen of hrm graphic.

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                                olymay Gold Members @Robert_mp
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                                @Robert_mp You were able to use the map view whilst tracking an activity?

                                What were/are your other settings in the watch (AoD, Tilt to Wake, Tap to Wake, etc… as many as you can give).

                                I would love to be able to use the map view, but on mine it turns the ‘power saver tilt’ back on and causes it to crash.

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                                  @olymay said in Random reboots of the Suunto 7 during recording an activity:

                                  @Robert_mp You were able to use the map view whilst tracking an activity?

                                  What were/are your other settings in the watch (AoD, Tilt to Wake, Tap to Wake, etc… as many as you can give).

                                  I would love to be able to use the map view, but on mine it turns the ‘power saver tilt’ back on and causes it to crash.

                                  Hi @olymay . Yes, as I said before, I’ve used the map a lot during the activity I was tracking.
                                  Other settings: airplane mode on, AoD on, tilt to wake off, tap to wake off, Map always active off, brightness auto (and low), gps 10s.

                                  Have you done what @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos told us? To desactivate ‘power save tilt’ option and reboot the watch… Then check the option is off.
                                  I’ve checked this before and after my activity. The option was OFF in both cases.

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                                  • olymayO Offline
                                    olymay Gold Members @Robert_mp
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                                    @Robert_mp Thanks for the info 🙂

                                    Yes, I have done what @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos suggested and it worked. However, for me, using the map during an activity overrides this and turns ‘power saver tilt’ back on.

                                    I have some differences in my settings to yours…
                                    Aeroplane mode: OFF
                                    AoD: ON
                                    Tilt to Wake: OFF
                                    Tap to Wake: OFF
                                    Map always active: ON
                                    Brightness: AUTO
                                    GPS: 1s
                                    I also play music from my watch via Bluetooth headphones.

                                    I only run for a max of two hours so battery saving isn’t a concern.

                                    If I do not go to the map view, all is ok. Going to map view reactivates ‘power saver tilt’ and it crashes.
                                    If I turn ON ‘power saver tilt’ and try a a run, it crashes on the default data screen.
                                    I am confident it is the ‘power saver tilt’ causing the issues.

                                    Suunto 7 Graphite Copper
                                    Suunto App Beta (Android - Pixel 6 Pro)

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                                      aeroild Bronze Member
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                                      On Saturday I experienced that my Suunto 7 rebooted for the first time during an activity. I have had my watch since 31th of January and have tracked more than 160 activities with the watch. Since the September update I have tracked several runs while using the navigation. I have swiped from the main screen to the map screen, zoomed in and zoomed out on the map, let the watch turn on the power save AOD, reactivited the full color display and so on. There has been no problems, untill Saturday.

                                      On Saturday I imported a route into the Suunto app on my phone, synced the route to the watch and went out for a hike. I walked maybe 1.5 km before getting to the point where my loaded route started. After maybe one more km I noticed that when swiping between the map screen, the altitude screen and data screen, the watch was responding extremely slow and the screens were changing like in slow motion. I walked maybe another km and then noticed that the watch rebooted. The activity had been saved and was synced to the Suunto app. In the Suunto app there is however no HR or ascent/descent info.

                                      I hope this was a one time thing.

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                                      • olymayO Offline
                                        olymay Gold Members
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                                        So I’ve had another play with the watch today (whilst on a boring conference call with work, shhhh, don’t tell anyone!).

                                        I tried again with the settings I listed in my previous post. Once I scrolled to the map screen, it was game over, the app crashes. Upon checking the settings, ‘power saver tilt’ was turned back on.

                                        I turned it off and tried again. This time it would crash in the default data screen (and it would not go into low power display). Again, the ‘power save tilt’ had turned itself back on.

                                        I had to restart (not a full reset) the watch in order to remedy this.

                                        I then tried another activity track, but this time I turned the Map Always Active to OFF. This time I was able to scroll to the map screen and back to the default screen and it did not crash. I cycled it round a number of times, varying the length of time and varying if I let the map go into low power mode or not. It worked every time.

                                        This may be yet further narrowing down of the fault.

                                        Can someone else, maybe @Robert_mp, try tracking an activity with Map Always Active set to ON please?

                                        Any help we can give to the developers could help them resolve the issue sooner 🙂

                                        Suunto 7 Graphite Copper
                                        Suunto App Beta (Android - Pixel 6 Pro)

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                                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                                          I had a user in another forum that said that if you disable these settings in the wear os app it fixes his issues

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                                          • olymayO Offline
                                            olymay Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                            last edited by olymay

                                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks for the info.

                                            I have tried tracking an activity (again, from sat at my desk) with these settings both on and off and I can confirm that it has worked for me.

                                            When it crashed, I checked my settings and the ‘power saver tilt’ was again turned on, despite my having turned it off.
                                            When it worked OK (with the settings shown turned off) the ‘power saver tilt’ stayed turned off.

                                            So, it appears that some settings (map always on, WearOS notification settings) can force ‘power saver tilt’ to turn back on.

                                            I use these WearOS notification settings, so this is certainly not an acceptable permanent solution.

                                            I believe this is still a problem with ‘power saver tilt’.

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                                            Suunto App Beta (Android - Pixel 6 Pro)

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