Suunto 9 Peak

[cosme.costa]

@surfboomerang This looks very, very good.

[cosme.costa]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Peak:

@cosmecosta because of the inverted colors

So this is intended…well in my opinion it is more a bug/error, because inverting the colors should not change functionality or the way of reading the information. I mean if the watchface indicates with a ring the sun light hours it always should indicate the sun light hours…now is more like a day/night shift watchface depending on the colors

On the other hand and taking advantage of the watchface topic, is there any intention to update the existing watchfaces with the comments in the forum like: in classic outdoor watchface the possibility of changing the upper field or in the new outdoor watchface the possibility to know the battery level all the time, during nights too, or when the battery is under certain level that the watchface shows some red icon or something, …

[isazi]

@cosmecosta yep, for this watchface the dark theme shows sun, the light theme shows darkness. It is a decision taken by Suunto (and yes, someone already complained about that during testing months ago) and will probably not change.

[isazi]

@surfboomerang two fingers from the wristbone, tight but not to the point of pain. It matches both Polar OH1 and Suunto smartsensor for me, and it has been doing it for months (not from day 1, but it improved a lot) while running, doing slow/fast/sprints etc… Max difference is usually 1/2 bpm, because of different positioning (wrist vs. chest vs. upper arm). Nowadays is very very good for me also for walking/hiking, and it has always been good on the bike (but on the bike I wear it less tight, as the hand is holding the bike and tight watch + closed hand may create more issues with blood flow).

For GPS I have been using Galileo in recent weeks, with incredible results (but then, some other people always have issues with Galileo). Glonass for me does not really work better than GPS only. GPS only is fine, but tracks are not as good (for me) moving slowly (e.g. walking). I haven’t used Beidou in few weeks, but I did one track Cooper test a month or so ago, with Beidou, and not only the track was very good, distance with autolaps on the track were so close to 400 meters for each lap (403/402/406 etc.).

Just my two cents

[surfboomerang]

@isazi I think that the next couple of weeks we will see a lot of comparisons between the S9P and other watches. And also neverending debates about the best GNSS setting

Unfortunately there is no perfect setting for everyone.

[dulko79]

@isazi is blood oxygen level measured during night/day in certain intervals or on demand?

[omunoz]

@dulko79
Good question , not appear blood oxygen on the night is correct ?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@dulko79 only on demand atm.

During activity it does not make sense (but it would make on demand)

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

No one did more runs and tests ?

[v.sacre]

Just did one small 5k run session to test OHR which wasnt working at all with my freshly new old S9Baro.

S9Peak: Very comfortable, no problem to read a 7 values screen while running despite the smaller size.

GPS Accuracy: No problem at all.

OHR: Works much better than previous model. Values are in line with what I can expect (a bit high but surely because of outdoor heat). We clearly see that HR rise during my two 1km intervals and drop down during the rests.

VO2Max: no value was calculated during this run… Is it normal ?

[isazi]

@v-sacre said in Suunto 9 Peak:

VO2Max: no value was calculated during this run… Is it normal ?

No issues about VO2max reported (I always get the value). But it is your first activity with a new watch, so it needs some time.

[v.sacre]

@isazi Yes I guess that is the reason. Will see after next sessions.
A pitty we cannot import history from Suunto App.

[surfboomerang]

@isazi Mine was also reported on the first run.
Does it take SA history into account?

[isazi]

@surfboomerang said in Suunto 9 Peak:

@isazi Mine was also reported on the first run.
Does it take SA history into account?

It does not take history, but I have the same values on all watches as the Firstbeat algorithm is the same.

[surfboomerang]

@isazi True, but why do some users report that VO2Max is not recorded?
Are the runs too short?

[isazi]

@surfboomerang Firstbeat black box magic. Their algorithm needs to have high confidence to start reporting VO2max. So it is very dependent on the quality of HR and GPS data.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@surfboomerang

VO2Max needs to determine the baseline (first value)

• Good HR quality
• Good HR scale (ie from slow to fast how it reacts)
• Good terrain ie not many ups and downs etc
• More than 15 mins running with the above conditions

FB tries to wipe out all erratic data and play on the safe side.

Also the Vo2max is per watch and not via SA -> Watch etc .

[herlas]

And this morning got my watch on your way e-mail can’t wait, I bet this will be the first in Mexico at least from people in this forum or at least the white titanium one

[Brad_Olwin]

@isazi said in Suunto 9 Peak:

@surfboomerang two fingers from the wristbone, tight but not to the point of pain. It matches both Polar OH1 and Suunto smartsensor for me, and it has been doing it for months (not from day 1, but it improved a lot) while running, doing slow/fast/sprints etc… Max difference is usually 1/2 bpm, because of different positioning (wrist vs. chest vs. upper arm). Nowadays is very very good for me also for walking/hiking, and it has always been good on the bike (but on the bike I wear it less tight, as the hand is holding the bike and tight watch + closed hand may create more issues with blood flow).

For GPS I have been using Galileo in recent weeks, with incredible results (but then, some other people always have issues with Galileo). Glonass for me does not really work better than GPS only. GPS only is fine, but tracks are not as good (for me) moving slowly (e.g. walking). I haven’t used Beidou in few weeks, but I did one track Cooper test a month or so ago, with Beidou, and not only the track was very good, distance with autolaps on the track were so close to 400 meters for each lap (403/402/406 etc.).

Just my two cents

And for me, I hate wearing a watch near my elbow!!! And, my arms are thick so I cannot wear the watch very high, it always slips down, so I wear the S9P near the wrist bone and I am getting HR that closely matches the belt. In fact, I get battery battery without the belt on the S9P so my belt is likely to sit unused. As for GPS, GPS only works extremely well for me, the S9P tracks beat the baro almost all of the time.

[Mff73]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Peak:

No one did more runs and tests ?

Very small run yesterday and my wife wore it (me SSU).
For her, for sure, some much comfort from Ambit1 and her small wrist.
OHR was good (but without comparison with any sensor), but, again, so comfortable not to wear the belt.
Only not so good thing :GPS track is really not that good. Just on par with SSU.
For sure I will give it other tests, me wearing it. For day time, I totally forget it.

Conclusion : good+, not perfect, but just one workout (and GPS wise only).

Question (silly but…) : where should I find other Gnss systems? In Sport mode options (can find it)?

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more details here https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6608/real-world-data/8