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    Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update

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      laurent92m
      last edited by laurent92m

      Hello,

      I tried with 2 Samsung phones without success. I tried with 2 wifi networks (home & work) and I thought it was the cause… but it is not …
      On 30th April at work, I was able to synchronize 2 activities , 2 hours after arrival and after lunch, a 20 minutes walk in less than 30 seconds. Back at home, my 40 minutes cycling trip was synchonized in the evening. But running, walking of 1st May could not be synchronized at home. Today at work, after 3 hours, nothing happened ( for 3 activities). So synchronization is done or not at random …
      (Hard re-set of the watch, new Suunto Apps download on 2 mobiles, new Bluetooth setting done, 2 different Internet providers tested). My conclusion, there is something wrong in Suunto coding and nothing else…
      Update @ 16h47 this 2nd May. 3 activities (of yesterday & this morning) in the end transferred few minutes ago, at my work place…
      Update @21h00. Back home, I managed to synchronize cycle back home activity with the transfer of a new map. So it is very bizarre 😉 and for sure something wrong in the Suunto code.

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        ortles Silver Members @freeheeler
        last edited by

        @freeheeler

        OK, I see, it can be complicated!

        In the end it’s not under all circumstances necessary to know why 2.33.12 does not work.

        One thing is certain: Under 2.30.38 there were no issues with sync.

        So I think if I could downgrade to 2.30.38 everything should work again. At least there’s a high probability (given that they didn’t change other things as well).

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        • freeheelerF Offline
          freeheeler @ortles
          last edited by

          @ortles
          I am very sure they are on it.
          I didn’t check if we have previous firmware available here to downgrade, but yes that could be an option.

          living sideways

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          • sartoricS Offline
            sartoric Moderator
            last edited by

            If something has changed in the data structure (so how data are sent to the app) very probably downgrade isn’t a possibility

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              Matze Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have tried on an iPhone and an iPad. Would also be able to try on an Android phone, if needed.

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              • Ivan VasilevI Offline
                Ivan Vasilev Bronze Member
                last edited by

                An update (also to keep the topic on top): reinstalling the Suunto app on Pixel 7a didn’t help. The behavior is still the same - whenever the watch attempts to sync the activities to the app, the connection drops almost immediately. I hope a fix is found soon, as the issue is really frustrating.

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                  Charles Bronze Member
                  last edited by

                  Hey guys, after a month of having a non-able-to-sync watch, I’ve decided to send it back for a warranty exchange/repair.
                  I’ll let you know how the procedure is going 😉

                  Cheers

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                    ortles Silver Members @Charles
                    last edited by ortles

                    @Charles

                    Yeah keep us updated, that would be great 👍

                    Weren‘t they looking for one of the non working watches here? I have in mind that you offered to send yours.

                    Does anybody of you know if this has led to any specific consequences?

                    I am still keeping my watch (oh my god, I must be a real suunto fan then ;-)), but have to admit that I am close to give up…

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                      Charles Bronze Member @ortles
                      last edited by

                      @ortles
                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos asked for my logs, email and phone so that the repair team from suunto know that my watch is affected.

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                      • Stefano M64S Offline
                        Stefano M64 Silver Members
                        last edited by Stefano M64

                        Yesterday, I had the idea to delete all the activities but the last one (all already synced to the SA) from the watch (Race), to check if the sync issue could be caused by the old activities stored in the watch and recorded before the firmware update (2.33.12). After deleting, the “basic syncing” (that is: gps performance, weather, etc … without new activities) performed without problems. This morning I recorded a short activity and the sync performed again with no problem. Then, I recorded another short activity and the sync was OK again.
                        Before deleting the old activities (from the watch) I had problem also with the “basic syncing”: the BT connection dropped often and sync restarted several times before completing the operation.

                        Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                          rokkenrolli @Stefano M64
                          last edited by

                          @Stefano-M64

                          Interested to see how it continues for you, although I’m not confident based on past experiences. Many people here, including myself, have done a hard reset which wipes everything off the watch. It has however not fixed the sync issues.

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                          • Stefano M64S Offline
                            Stefano M64 Silver Members @rokkenrolli
                            last edited by

                            @rokkenrolli

                            I don’t know how SA manages the sync process, however, other synching programs, as for example FreeFileSync, or cloud-based ones, as Google Drive, Dropbox, Owncloud, etc …, create and update an hidden database file that records the status of the synching process, if that file at same point became corrupt the whole synching process can be affected, because there are conflicts between the database copies on the client and on the server.
                            IF this is the case (I’m guessing), maybe that the hard reset by itself isn’t able to solve such conflict(s), since SA should be able repair/re-create the database and realign the activities.

                            Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                            • Stefano M64S Offline
                              Stefano M64 Silver Members
                              last edited by

                              Made another Hiking activity, for about 30 minutes, while driving back home from work (Race advised me about anomalous high speed 😁 ).
                              Then synced again without problem in few seconds.
                              Let’s see if tomorrow if things continue to be OK

                              Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                                Lukáš Blažek @Stefano M64
                                last edited by

                                @Stefano-M64 good to know. Unfortunately I have still the same problem - brand new watches, without any old activities as you mentioned 😔. Three times hard reset + xxx times BT connection reset - unpairing - new pairing… I don’t know

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                                  Stefano M64 Silver Members @Lukáš Blažek
                                  last edited by Stefano M64

                                  @Lukáš-Blažek said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:

                                  sadly the favorable planets alignment lasted just one day, this morning I recorded a 1,5 hour exercise and the sync hanged again, only deleting all the recent activities stored in the watch let the sync worked properly.

                                  Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                                  • Lukáš BlažekL Offline
                                    Lukáš Blažek @Stefano M64
                                    last edited by

                                    @Stefano-M64 yesterday a did last big reset ( read factory) then I pair it with app again. After that I recorded 1h:45min of walking. It will be almost 24 hours - still without sync. I will wait until next Monday then I will send my watch for complaints… I will be switched closer to another brand 😔

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                                    Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal

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                                      ortles Silver Members
                                      last edited by ortles

                                      Is there any ETB = estimated time of bugfixing?

                                      Until now we only have the information that it’s ‚very difficult‘.

                                      It would be much easier to wait if there would be some kind of perspective.

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                                      • EzioAuditoreE Offline
                                        EzioAuditore Gold Members @ortles
                                        last edited by

                                        @ortles Just out of curiosity… have you guys tried say syncing through VPN? Maybe there is some weird distributed system thing going on.

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                                          denis_barberot @Charles
                                          last edited by

                                          @Charles Hi, can you explain us how you did to send it back the watch ?

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                                          • inkognitoI Offline
                                            inkognito Platinum Member @EzioAuditore
                                            last edited by

                                            @EzioAuditore The synchronization of activity data from the watch to the application does not rely on an internet connection. It operates smoothly, even if your phone is in airplane mode with BT enabled. If activities make it to the app, they are seamlessly synced to the cloud. Therefore, I don’t believe VPN would help 😕

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                                            Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
                                            Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto!

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