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    Sleep tracking dos not work after update

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    • JosaipluJ Offline
      Josaiplu Bronze Member @dreamer_
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      @dreamer_ My resting HR is 50-55 so could be linked to your range indeed

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        dreamer_ @Josaiplu
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        @Josaiplu the changes are from those who have 40 or less bpm. That is not your range.

        These are the proves that sleep did not work:

        The HR is tracked ok during the sleep. Here you can see the 6 hours of the sleep:

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        That means that the HR meassurements are fine. HR was tracked during the sleep

        And here is the sleep report, which is broken:

        861d7938-a116-40b0-9eaa-91c101cdb601-image.png

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        • Todd DanielczykT Offline
          Todd Danielczyk Gold Members @dreamer_
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          @dreamer_ mine seemed to be fine this morning.

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            dreamer_ @Todd Danielczyk
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            @Todd-Danielczyk The same I was telling @Josaiplu . The changes in firmware for sleep tracking are for those that have 40 bpm or less. That is not your case either.

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            • sartoricS Offline
              sartoric Moderator
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              I got the same figures (41/38) in the app , that could be a funny coincidence or a bug 😁

              In the watch 39/38

              SVTS - 2.40.38
              SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
              Samsung A5 2016 - Android 7.0
              Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
              Suunto App Android 5.2.5 beta
              Suunto App IOs 2.45.0 (19123) beta on MBP M1

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                dreamer_ @sartoric
                last edited by dreamer_

                @sartoric in fact as you can see, I have 40/38 in my watch and 41/38 in the app. With your similar bmp, your sleep tracking was fine?

                Thanks!

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                • sartoricS Offline
                  sartoric Moderator @dreamer_
                  last edited by sartoric

                  @dreamer_
                  yep the tracking was fine, at least the duration of it.

                  SVTS - 2.40.38
                  SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
                  Samsung A5 2016 - Android 7.0
                  Samsung A33 2022 - Android 14 - One UI 6.1
                  Suunto App Android 5.2.5 beta
                  Suunto App IOs 2.45.0 (19123) beta on MBP M1

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                    dreamer_ @sartoric
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                    @sartoric I Will check again tonight for sure. If I have the issue again, I’d like to help giving my logs or whatever is needed.

                    Thanks

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                      Iggge
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                      Do a soft reset. Mine works just fine (almost every time)

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                        dreamer_ @Iggge
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                        @Iggge It worked!! Today the tracking is just perfect.

                        IMG_20240705_063621.jpg IMG_20240705_063601.jpg

                        My bpm are a bit higher today (I have an exam and I’m not sleeping as much as I should)

                        @sartoric today I have the same info in the watch and the app but in the app I see in the first capture a minimum of 40 and in the second a minimum of 39. The watch says 40

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                          dreamer_ @dreamer_
                          last edited by dreamer_

                          Today the sleep tracking was again not accurate, after the update. It is not that bad like the first night (which was totally wrong), but It did not track correctly the sleep.

                          So from 3 days, I have a very bad tracking, a good one (after reset) and a not good one.

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                          The watch detects that I’m sleeping at 1:19am but as you can see in the HR data, that is not true.

                          These accuracy issues are only happening after the update. Everything was fine before the update. All that I know is that I’m in the HR affected range of the update.

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                          • ManueleM Offline
                            Manuele @dreamer_
                            last edited by Manuele

                            @dreamer_ Hi,

                            I am in the HR range of the update too, and, for now, I did not experience major differences from before, it seems that it is more precise in the awake time. Still it is not perfect, and I wish they will solve the licensing deal to obtain sleep stages and nap detection

                            Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar

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                              dreamer_ @Manuele
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                              @Manuele thanks for the report. I will check again tonight restarting the watch perhaps. There’s something there different. But these days, with an exam there, I’m also more nervous than usual.
                              I hope they can solve those licesing issues too. At the end, the Vertical is the best watch of the brand and that should be sorted, if possible.

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                                dreamer_ @dreamer_
                                last edited by dreamer_

                                Last two days sleep tracking has been pretty solid. It is not 100% accurate but is definitively better as those two days I reported.

                                Btw. About that licensing issues, which is the problem exactly? The Race S seems to have the same algorythms as the Race has.
                                Thanks

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                                  Mff73 @dreamer_
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                                  @dreamer_
                                  Interpolate for new watches.
                                  https://forum.suunto.com/post/131343

                                  Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                  Suunto Vertical all black
                                  Wife : S9PP
                                  SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                  Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                    dreamer_ @Mff73
                                    last edited by dreamer_

                                    @Mff73 thanks. Very interesting that feedback. So it’s just a matter of time.

                                    The only thing perhaps I don’t agree, is the strategy of keeping the (for now) worse algorythm just only in their best watch. I’m not sure if it’s fair for the people that bought the Vertical. But Suunto knows more those whys than us, of course.

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                                      Mff73 @dreamer_
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                                      @dreamer_
                                      Read better 😉, maybe it is not only suunto wishes, but also some contractual constraints.
                                      No insights here, but if a model was designed and “negociated” with certain “licensed” feature, it might be difficult to do without (legally speaking).

                                      Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                      Suunto Vertical all black
                                      Wife : S9PP
                                      SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                      Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                        dreamer_ @Mff73
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                                        @Mff73 I see. My “engrish” sometimes is not the best, you know 😉

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                                          dreamer_ @dreamer_
                                          last edited by dreamer_

                                          Just to add that this night the watch detected that I was sleeping at 1:40am. It is a hit and miss at the end. It somehow works but since the update , it is not as accurate as it should be (at least for me).

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                                            Iggge @dreamer_
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                                            @dreamer_ sleep tracking is alot better now than it was one year ago. Since Suunto 9 the sleep tracking heve been absolutely useless. After a 8h sleep it only registered about 2h.

                                            Now with my Vertical I get about 6h of sleep after about 7-8 hours, sometimes 8/8 hours

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