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    Sportsfreund Bronze Member @borgelkranz
    last edited by 5 Feb 2025, 19:39

    @borgelkranz does your watch show the zone sense graph in realtime? Or also delayed or after end activity in the app?

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      borgelkranz Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
      last edited by 5 Feb 2025, 20:33

      @Sportsfreund sorry I don’t get it even though I am one of the old people…

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        borgelkranz Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
        last edited by 5 Feb 2025, 20:34

        @Sportsfreund I do not see a graph on the watch but a bar that is color coded. Data is displayed after 10 minutes of warmup as explained in the description of the Zonesense app.

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          Sportsfreund Bronze Member @borgelkranz
          last edited by Sportsfreund 23 days ago 5 Feb 2025, 21:20

          @borgelkranz yes. This is what I mean. I bar. A graph. A colored line. So what.

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            far-blue Bronze Member
            last edited by 5 Feb 2025, 23:23

            Regarding the delay on ZS reacting, I’ve been testing out on threshold intervals and, although this is likely quite personal, for me it is about 10s behind the related change in HR. Of course there’s often a 10s to 20s delay in my HR reacting to a sudden increase or decrease in pace so overall ZS has a total lag for me of around 30s. Personally I think that’s pretty decent given I’m used to the 20s or so lag on my HR 🙂

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              herlas Silver Members
              last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 04:16

              One observation I’ve seen is, if we warm-up way slower than what a regular warm-up pace is for us, this will make ZS have a lower baseline and hence thresholds (if measured) will be lower as well.

              Advise is, do aerobic warm-ups but do not do them at a slower pace than your regular warm-up.

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                borgelkranz Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
                last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 06:26

                @Sportsfreund I actively monitored that only during a hike and during one of my bike commutes to work. I shot a foto of the watch after the hike:

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                In SuuntoApp this looked like this:
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                Not a perfect match I’d say…

                Caveat: this was the first hike I did using a HF belt and ZoneSones. So perhaps this is not yet calibrated?

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                  cosme.costa @borgelkranz
                  last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 08:40

                  @borgelkranz As I said before and info extracted from the Spanish Forum, the inconsistency between watch and app should be solved with next android app version, is seems that it is already fixed in iOS.

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                    A Former User @cosme.costa
                    last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 08:44

                    @cosme-costa I can confirm being on iOS and not having the issue.

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                      Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Guest
                      last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 09:05

                      @Mountain i also dont have problems with iOS app. Only the delay in the watch.

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                        thanasis Bronze Member @Guest
                        last edited by thanasis 8 days from now 6 Feb 2025, 09:57

                        @Mountain i definitnely have discrepancies between the app and the watch. strong ones i would say. my last run shows in the app like 40% in Red while the watch showed like 1-2% (in iOS)

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                          Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Guest
                          last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 11:06

                          @Mountain
                          Does it make sense to set these measured values ​​in my 5 zone model in the watch?

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                            Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
                            last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 11:08

                            @Sportsfreund It’s a measurement from the last workout this morning. A 10km run in my slow feel good zone. (Green zone from SUUNTO Zone Sense)

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                              Sportsfreund Bronze Member @Sportsfreund
                              last edited by Sportsfreund 8 days from now 6 Feb 2025, 13:57

                              @Sportsfreund Next inconsistency I found is, when I ran in ZoneSense Green Zone, which means AEROBIC, the Suunto App classifies the activitie as an AEROBIC/ANAEROBIC activity, because the Heartrate often was in Heartratezone 3.
                              This is not the trueness when I run while using ZoneSense instead of the HR Modus.

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                                cosme.costa @Sportsfreund
                                last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 15:31

                                @Sportsfreund This is true, automatic tagging is based in HR and not in ZS. I think and hope, that eventually, they will let you chose between which base you want to use, HR or ZS.

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                                  A Former User @Sportsfreund
                                  last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 16:01

                                  @Sportsfreund Hashtags are HR zones based not ZoneSense.

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                                    A Former User @Sportsfreund
                                    last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 16:02

                                    @Sportsfreund to me yes.

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                                      ChrisA Platinum Member @Sportsfreund
                                      last edited by 6 Feb 2025, 17:18

                                      @Sportsfreund said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                      @Sportsfreund and I can’t imagine the waves while the heartrate is constantly rising.

                                      If I remember correctly in the Suunto video, where Zonesense is explained, they actually say, that the ups and downs of the Zonesense graph are not really significant , but the Zone alone (so if it’s in the green it’s in the green)

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                                        vuckowolf
                                        last edited by 11 Feb 2025, 14:37

                                        Hi,

                                        does anyone know why the app is not showing a measured aerobic and anaerobic HR every time? Sometimes they show one, sometimes none, sometimes both.

                                        Thanks, Matthias

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                                          cosme.costa @vuckowolf
                                          last edited by 11 Feb 2025, 14:46

                                          @vuckowolf said in Suunto ZoneSense:

                                          Hi,

                                          does anyone know why the app is not showing a measured aerobic and anaerobic HR every time? Sometimes they show one, sometimes none, sometimes both.

                                          Thanks, Matthias

                                          Because maybe it doesn’t have enough data or maybe because they do not need to change. I mean, to detect the change between anaerobic and VO2max you need to be enough time in the red zone, the same for the aerobic one. But not always changes.

                                          Besides, I have read that the thresholds are calculated during the first 45 minutes (I do not know if it includes the 10 minutes warm up or not) to avoid that the fatigue affecting to the calculations.

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