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    A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by A Former User 24 May 2019, 14:38

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

    @pilleus said in Suunto 5:

    I do not understand why there is no new watch without OHR (it’s not usable while riding a bike) and without touch screen. To obtain proper heart rate there is no alternative to a chest strap.

    Finally ! Someone said it 😄

    I said it many times - here and on Facebook. For every person with S9 who I follow, their entire runs are always all in zone 5. How is that useful? And, of course, all the derived VOMax metrics, if they were introduced on S9, would be complete garbage, as long as optical HR is used.

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
      last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 24 May 2019, 14:39

      @silentvoyager I have good OHR readings you can check my runs 😉 1/3 is with OHR if its slow one and you can detect some peaks at start 😉

      But I dont care about OHR per se. I prefer to remove + add something else

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        plopes73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 24 May 2019, 14:43

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos +1 since I’ve moved the watch to my right wrist ✌


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          oeagleo @Brad_Olwin
          last edited by 24 May 2019, 15:56

          @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 5:

          @suzzlo I understand you. The compactness of the 5 is nice. It does well without a barometer, I can show examples. I think it might do less well with small changes, my runs rarely have less than 300m.

          “Compactness”? It’s bigger than the Fenix 5+. But I guess it is smaller than the Fenix 5X+, so… 🙂

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            zhang965
            last edited by 24 May 2019, 16:33

            could it be better if suunto 9 = 7, suunto 9 baro =9;
            so we already have 3 5 7 9?

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              Václav Král @Guest
              last edited by 24 May 2019, 19:12

              @silentvoyager OMG. I would never take a watch without OHR. S9 works fine, 24/7 OHR is super COOL and during running and hiking is very useful. And where OHR fails, I can use HR strap.
              But I don´t want never ever sporttester without OHR.

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                A Former User @Václav Král
                last edited by A Former User 25 May 2019, 02:42

                @Václav-Král said in Suunto 5:

                @silentvoyager OMG. I would never take a watch without OHR. S9 works fine, 24/7 OHR is super COOL and during running and hiking is very useful. And where OHR fails, I can use HR strap.
                But I don´t want never ever sporttester without OHR.

                Are you absolutely sure you are getting correct results? I ran with a HR belt for many years, so I know quite well what kind of HR I should have for different levels of effort. It takes a lot of effort for me to push my HR above 165, and more typically it is in 140-150 range. But with optical HR it goes straight to 170-190 range and pretty much stays there, occasionally going above 200. So basically it measures my cadence rather than HR. Occasionally it drops to the correct HR but at least 75% percent of the time it is wrong. I tried many different suggestions how to make it more reliable, but short of shaving my arms, which I won’t do, the results are the same As I said, I also looked at a few other runners who I know are running with S9, and see the same thing.

                If you are young and have a short history of running, your typical HR ranges could be fairly close to your cadence, so you may not know if you are getting correct values or not.

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                  Armin S. @zhang965
                  last edited by Armin S. 25 May 2019, 10:25

                  @zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

                  could it be better if suunto 9 = 7, suunto 9 baro =9;
                  so we already have 3 5 7 9?

                  I do not think they will rename existing models. Rather, I believe that the new S5 with baro etc. will be later the next S7.

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                    zhang965 @Armin S.
                    last edited by 25 May 2019, 10:43

                    @Armin-S said in Suunto 5:

                    @zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

                    could it be better if suunto 9 = 7, suunto 9 baro =9;
                    so we already have 3 5 7 9?

                    I do not think they will rename existing models. Rather, I believe that the new S5 with baro etc. will be later the next S7.

                    yes but they renamed once suunto 9 to suunto 9 baro

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                      Egika Platinum Member @zhang965
                      last edited by 25 May 2019, 10:45

                      @zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

                      @Armin-S said in Suunto 5:

                      @zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

                      could it be better if suunto 9 = 7, suunto 9 baro =9;
                      so we already have 3 5 7 9?

                      I do not think they will rename existing models. Rather, I believe that the new S5 with baro etc. will be later the next S7.

                      yes but they renamed once suunto 9 to suunto 9 baro

                      and I thought both exist in parallel ?

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                        zhang965 @Egika
                        last edited by 25 May 2019, 10:51

                        @Egika
                        Yes but initially suunto 9 has baro, just months after they showed a suunto 9 without baro and renamed old 9 to 9 baro

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                          zhang965
                          last edited by 25 May 2019, 10:53

                          Suunto 9 Baro
                          Just released in June 2018 so don’t expect a replacement before 2020 This is the device reviewed as “Suunto 9” by most reviewers, but is not the newer, crapper Suunto 9

                          Suunto 9
                          Just released in September 2018 so don’t expect a replacement before 2020. This is the name in all the reviews, but a newer, slightly crap version of the device. Buyer beware, make sure you know what you’re buying. Yes, Suunto do have a watch called the Suunto 9 in both mid-range and high-end. Madness.

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zhang965
                            last edited by 25 May 2019, 11:04

                            @zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

                            Yes, Suunto do have a watch called the Suunto 9 in both mid-range and high-end.

                            what do you mean? How is the non baro version mid range if I understand correctly ?

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                              zhang965 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 25 May 2019, 11:28

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

                              @zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

                              Yes, Suunto do have a watch called the Suunto 9 in both mid-range and high-end.

                              what do you mean? How is the non baro version mid range if I understand correctly ?

                              I just copied it from GPS rumors

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                                suzzlo Moderator
                                last edited by 25 May 2019, 11:34

                                I think Suunto 7, will be Spartan Sport evolution (sure you think same) and this model has 3 variants: Normal/Wrist/Baro

                                Non Wrist model makes no sense, so I think, we could see 4 models

                                • Suunto 5 => Baro and Non Baro
                                • Suunto 7 => Baro and Non Baro

                                Differences between 5 and 7 should come (from my perspective) in:

                                • Design => based on SSS, no external antenna
                                • Battery => battery between 5 and 9
                                • Firstbeat => they could add Training Load, or other…

                                We will see 🙂

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                                  dulko79 @suzzlo
                                  last edited by 25 May 2019, 11:37

                                  @suzzlo what about price difference between 5 and 7? 😃

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                                    zhang965 @suzzlo
                                    last edited by 25 May 2019, 11:39

                                    @suzzlo said in Suunto 5:

                                    I think Suunto 7, will be Spartan Sport evolution (sure you think same) and this model has 3 variants: Normal/Wrist/Baro

                                    Non Wrist model makes no sense, so I think, we could see 4 models

                                    • Suunto 5 => Baro and Non Baro
                                    • Suunto 7 => Baro and Non Baro

                                    Differences between 5 and 7 should come (from my perspective) in:

                                    • Design => based on SSS, no external antenna
                                    • Battery => battery between 5 and 9
                                    • Firstbeat => they could add Training Load, or other…

                                    We will see 🙂

                                    BR

                                    Why they add more firstbeat features to 7? If I followed the 3 5 9 logic, 7 should have less firstbeat features and 9 has non firstbeat features

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                                      suzzlo Moderator @dulko79
                                      last edited by 25 May 2019, 11:40

                                      @dulko79

                                      S3 -> 200
                                      S5 -> 300
                                      S7 -> 450
                                      S9 -> 600

                                      makes sense?

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                                        zhang965 @suzzlo
                                        last edited by zhang965 25 May 2019, 11:41

                                        @suzzlo so S7 baro is upper than s9’s price?
                                        S5 baro is upper than s7?

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                                          suzzlo Moderator @zhang965
                                          last edited by 25 May 2019, 11:42

                                          @zhang965 the S7 should have 8 Firstbeat features, since 5 has 6 (https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-product/suunto/suunto-5/)

                                          😆 😆 😆 😆

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