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Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!

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    Saketo Nemo Moderator @johann.fuehrer
    last edited by 18 Sept 2019, 21:57

    @johann-fuehrer

    up to 7 fields per screen, and it’s really handy when you don’t want to play too much with buttons, like when u r riding. possibility to activate energy saving profiles or change the GPS accuracy (or turn it off) during the activity. set repeated directly from the clock. set autolap from the start screen (if I am not mistaken, on ambit, it had to be entered first).
    And…i’ll think this night, time to sleep 🤭

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator
      last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 02:26

      I agree with the oHR feature, it is a problem. Perhaps the watch weight is an issue. I can wear mine where I do not want to partway up my arm and get good oHR. You missed some pro FusedTrack and absolutely amazing battery life, something my Ambits did not have.

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        A Former User
        last edited by A Former User 19 Sept 2019, 02:32

        pros:

        • Look
        • Comfort
        • Battery life in sport mode with GPS
        • Vibration
        • Breadcrumbs
        • Ability to zoom in navigation mode, but that is somewhat crippled by having to unlock

        Mixed pros/cons:

        • Display - higher resolution but worse contrast / visibility
        • Measures longer, closer to true distance on trails while GPS is less accurate. The reason that happens is because there is some wobbling side to side which kind of compensates cutting through the turns and switchbacks so the distance ends up being slightly truer compared to A3.
        • Automatic FusedAlti - cool idea in general but it often leads to less accurate elevation gain.
        • Direction arrows on navigation route - useful but not always working correctly.

        Everything else - either features I don’t care about or cons.

        In particular, two strong cons compared to A3P are:

        • Lack of dedicated Light and View buttons
        • Can’t see upcoming waypoint details on demand like in A3 (in A3 that is done by pressing View button in navigation screen)
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          A Former User
          last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 04:33

          Here is my point of view and I try to keep a comparison with the Fenix 6x Pro out of this:

          Pro:

          • Great user interface
          • easy usability
          • no overload of options/functions
          • very good GPS tracks on the mountains in my area (Southern Germany)
          • native support for running power

          Cons:

          • lack of watchface configuration for intervals (e.g. 3 metrics: timer or distance, power, heartrate)
          • missing additional data from external sensors in the FIT file
          • vibration alarm too less intensity (I sometimes do not recognize it while sleeping)
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            zhang965
            last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 06:26

            The step counter is too sucking to be a con ?

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              azeanic
              last edited by azeanic 19 Sept 2019, 09:15

              I ran a 109k race recently and there was a Suunto 9 (me), a Coros Vertix and a Fenix 5 (two other runners) My observations were.

              • Suunto 9, the distance was off by quite a bit. I had to probably minus 6-8k off the current distance on the watch to match the course. Saving grace was the navigation and course profile. The estimated time arrival was quite useful as well.
              • Fenix 5, had the most accurate distance among the three.
              • Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.
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                freeheeler @azeanic
                last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 09:48

                @azeanic
                never run out of battery says suunto…?!

                living sideways

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                  sartoric Moderator @azeanic
                  last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 10:16

                  @azeanic said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                  Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.

                  Out of curiosity, was Coros using OHR and same precision (of course,not the same but equivalent) for GPS ?

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                    zhang965 @azeanic
                    last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 11:19

                    @azeanic which GPS precision did you use for the running ? I think it’s a problem with FUSEDTRACK

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                      azeanic @zhang965
                      last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 12:55

                      @zhang965 Best GPS Mode.

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                        azeanic @sartoric
                        last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 12:55

                        @sartoric Not sure what’s the precision but OHR was on based off his Strava logs.

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                          freeheeler @azeanic
                          last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:04

                          @azeanic
                          how does your s9 and garmin/coros track look compared in strava?
                          …despite that I noticed that strava shows a compressed trackline compared to SA and MC…

                          living sideways

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                            freeheeler @zhang965
                            last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:05

                            @zhang965
                            you’ve got fusedtrack disabled? and better precision?

                            living sideways

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                              A Former User @azeanic
                              last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:14

                              @azeanic said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                              Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.

                              Coros Vertix is advertised to have 60 hours in the best GPS mode, but the accuracy isn’t as good as Suunto 9 from some discussions that I’ve seen so far.

                              Suuto 9 could have survived the entire race on a single charge in Performance mode if OHR was turned off from the beginning, but that would be a close call.

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                                freeheeler @Guest
                                last edited by freeheeler 19 Sept 2019, 14:42

                                @silentvoyager
                                does chest strap use less battery than ohr?

                                living sideways

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                                  zhang965 @freeheeler
                                  last edited by zhang965 19 Sept 2019, 14:42

                                  @TELE-HO of course, chest belt requests less battery

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                                    johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
                                    last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:44

                                    @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

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                                      zhang965 @johann.fuehrer
                                      last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:50

                                      @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                      @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                                      I didn’t think so, it just acts so,
                                      try it yourself, in the same sport mode, s9 will show different estimated battery life.

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                                        johann.fuehrer Bronze Member @zhang965
                                        last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:52

                                        @zhang965 ---- no chance — still on Ambit2 — waiting for improvements in the App and Firmware before wasting money again …

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                                          Egika Platinum Member @johann.fuehrer
                                          last edited by 19 Sept 2019, 14:55

                                          @johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:

                                          @zhang965 what makes you think so? Bluetooth/ANT+ consumes also energy and WHR is optimized to use also as less as possible? Just because chast Belt has it’s own battery for sensor and transmission?

                                          It’s true.
                                          WHR consumes more energy because the LED’s use way more than BTLE.
                                          BTLE has an average current of ~0.05mA (depending largely on the chipset)
                                          The high rate LED switching easily uses 10x as much power…

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