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@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:
bob ross said There are no mistakes, just happy LITTLE accidents.
nice that am not the only one who watched him -
I do understand your con point, if you speak French, you will also understand your conās meaning
Btw
The algorithms for Ohr and chest are different,Chest belt can calculate the hr based on actual RR interval
But ohr has to get an average from a period itās why we say ohr needs wear it for some minutes before beginning sport
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@johann-fuehrer said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:
@zhang965 said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:
bob ross said There are no mistakes, just happy LITTLE accidents.
nice that am not the only one who watched him You have been right: "āWe donāt make mistakes ā we just have happy accidents.ā
Mixed up quotes of B.R.
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When I begin using S9, my PB of 10k has changed a lot , 45m (a3p and ssu ) to 38m (s9)
You know Iām the guy only run once 10k a week at Sunday morning .I thought it because I 'm running quicker, but it actually s9ās gps running quicker than meā¦
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I had some really really bad time with s9, but now it doesnāt matter anymore:
s9 is still being developed, s9 is still young, suunto has still time to finish it, new firmware is on the way, unless ssu, three years later of his release, one year in outlet, it still looks like an unfinished watch -
@zhang965
Iām still not convinced if itās a good or bad plan to throw a product on the market in test stage and use customers over 3 years time to improve itā¦
or do it like others: secretly test and improve until perfection and then surprise and overwhelm the customers with a big bang -
@TELE-HO said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:
@zhang965
Iām still not convinced if itās a good or bad plan to throw a product on the market in test stage and use customers over 3 years time to improve itā¦Microsoft was doing well with that approach, like IBM, Apple, Google (Android), ā¦ and the difference to Suunto is: their (Suuntoās) software usually do NOT crash! But customer feedback is somewhere different than what you cannot get in an āsterileā test environment. The āwildā is always different. And the the test base of Microsoft and Suunto might be slightly different in sizeā¦
Thatās the reason, garmin drops out each beta in the wild, and let customers to the hard work (ābut weāve told you: it BETA!!, sorry for your dataā¦ā)
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@johann-fuehrer
up to 7 fields per screen, and itās really handy when you donāt want to play too much with buttons, like when u r riding. possibility to activate energy saving profiles or change the GPS accuracy (or turn it off) during the activity. set repeated directly from the clock. set autolap from the start screen (if I am not mistaken, on ambit, it had to be entered first).
Andā¦iāll think this night, time to sleep š¤ -
I agree with the oHR feature, it is a problem. Perhaps the watch weight is an issue. I can wear mine where I do not want to partway up my arm and get good oHR. You missed some pro FusedTrack and absolutely amazing battery life, something my Ambits did not have.
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pros:
- Look
- Comfort
- Battery life in sport mode with GPS
- Vibration
- Breadcrumbs
- Ability to zoom in navigation mode, but that is somewhat crippled by having to unlock
Mixed pros/cons:
- Display - higher resolution but worse contrast / visibility
- Measures longer, closer to true distance on trails while GPS is less accurate. The reason that happens is because there is some wobbling side to side which kind of compensates cutting through the turns and switchbacks so the distance ends up being slightly truer compared to A3.
- Automatic FusedAlti - cool idea in general but it often leads to less accurate elevation gain.
- Direction arrows on navigation route - useful but not always working correctly.
Everything else - either features I donāt care about or cons.
In particular, two strong cons compared to A3P are:
- Lack of dedicated Light and View buttons
- Canāt see upcoming waypoint details on demand like in A3 (in A3 that is done by pressing View button in navigation screen)
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Here is my point of view and I try to keep a comparison with the Fenix 6x Pro out of this:
Pro:
- Great user interface
- easy usability
- no overload of options/functions
- very good GPS tracks on the mountains in my area (Southern Germany)
- native support for running power
Cons:
- lack of watchface configuration for intervals (e.g. 3 metrics: timer or distance, power, heartrate)
- missing additional data from external sensors in the FIT file
- vibration alarm too less intensity (I sometimes do not recognize it while sleeping)
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The step counter is too sucking to be a con ?
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I ran a 109k race recently and there was a Suunto 9 (me), a Coros Vertix and a Fenix 5 (two other runners) My observations were.
- Suunto 9, the distance was off by quite a bit. I had to probably minus 6-8k off the current distance on the watch to match the course. Saving grace was the navigation and course profile. The estimated time arrival was quite useful as well.
- Fenix 5, had the most accurate distance among the three.
- Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.
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@azeanic
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@azeanic said in Pros/Cons of Suunto 9 BARO * ONLY * be fair and polite!:
Coros Vertix, had the best battery life among us 3 at the 60km mark. I had to disable OHR and charge a bit half-way through the race and finished with about 18% after 29.5 hours. Whilst I vaguely remember the Coros has more than enough battery to get to the finish line without a recharge.
Out of curiosity, was Coros using OHR and same precision (of course,not the same but equivalent) for GPS ?
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@azeanic which GPS precision did you use for the running ? I think itās a problem with FUSEDTRACK
Winners Wear Winners
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@zhang965 Best GPS Mode.
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@sartoric Not sure whatās the precision but OHR was on based off his Strava logs.
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@azeanic
how does your s9 and garmin/coros track look compared in strava?
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@zhang965
youāve got fusedtrack disabled? and better precision?
