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    Michał Rudzki
    last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 17:59

    I completely understood your situation, I have also a problem with my spartan, the GPS fix takes minutes, sometimes even an hour. I wrote to the support they told me I need reflash firmware and it helps but after some weeks problem back. Even if I make GPS location and save as a cache. Also after the last update, they broke something in the swimming watch face (I am using the default one) hart rate it’s not showing on the ring in the main screen of the swimming face it’s gray and it’s stayed gray until I finished my activity, I tried to configure some manually but that also won’t work and at the end, there is no heart rate zone available in the saved activities. (I am using Suunto belt)

    Support has really great job, their process looks like that:

    Customer request/Complaining -> Reset watch -> otherwise Reflash firmware <lol> International Professional Company, <lol2>, even they can deliver any feature from the beginning to the end, almost all it’s has been delivered in partially…and yap, it’s my frustration even after those all yers they offer me 10% of discount for new product <lol>

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Michał Rudzki
      last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:37

      @Michał-Rudzki said in Spartan update complains:

      GPS fix takes minutes, sometimes even an hour.

      really ?

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @JonasJkp
        last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:49

        @JonasJkp I had a Spartan for a long time but no longer. I did not have this issue. Have you attempted a hard reset? You should be able to sync your workouts to SA. Once they are synced a hard reset will require you to redo your zones etc. But you should not lose any workouts as long as they transferred.

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          Michał Rudzki @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 09:01

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yes, really. I’ve already requested a ticket to support, what I got was reset the watch to the default. No one asks me about logs etc… you don’t need to comment on things that are obvious.

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Michał Rudzki
            last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 09:04

            @Michał-Rudzki I have many friends that dont have such an issue. Are your AGPS up to date?

            There are plenty of people I know personally and we run each Sunday that dont have such an issue.

            There is nothing wrong there, and I am expecting that your watch:

            • Either reboots and you dont sync with the app
            • Either you forget to sync AGPS

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              sartoric Moderator @Michał Rudzki
              last edited by sartoric 9 Aug 2020, 09:15 8 Sept 2020, 09:14

              I record at least 3 activities a week with gps and I never had such an issue.
              Well, in fact I had it once, because of a soft reset and the watch had no data connection, so no AGPS. It tooks 5/10 minutes to do the fix and get satellites.

              … you don’t need to comment on things that are obvious.

              Oh, maybe I shouldn’t have replied

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                Mff73 @Michał Rudzki
                last edited by Mff73 9 Aug 2020, 10:11 8 Sept 2020, 10:10

                @Michał-Rudzki
                Just to try to help also 😉
                I also have a Spartan, and GPS is found very quickly, except if :
                1- AGPS data are not there (after a reboot they disapear and sync with SA is mandatory (and check again data are there with proper date))
                2- AGPS data are old enough to delay the fix (regular sync with SA is needed)
                3- trying to fix far away from previous GPS fix and watch need more time to fix
                4- trying also to get a fix while moving (driving a car, etc…)

                If you are not in these case (my cases 🙂 ) then either your unit is faulty or something we have not think about (like some magnet gloves 😊 = just a joke)

                [edit] : but fixing during one hour 😞

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                  DavorP
                  last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 10:12

                  I have Spartan Ultra and no problem with GPS fix. It is matter of second(s).

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                    Egika Platinum Member @Mff73
                    last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 10:12

                    @Mff73 one more: after updating AGPS from the app, the watch needs some time to unpack the data until they become effective.
                    I remeber this time is within a few minutes

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                      Mff73 @Egika
                      last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 10:14

                      @Egika said in Spartan update complains:

                      @Mff73 one more: after updating AGPS from the app, the watch needs some time to unpack the data until they become effective.
                      I remeber this time is within a few minutes

                      Yep, i never experienced this waiting, but @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos explained that. So it is 🙂

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                        Saketo Nemo Moderator
                        last edited by 8 Sept 2020, 10:14

                        Mine SSU too. Tried saturday, GPS fixed after a few seconds

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                          JonasJkp @Brad_Olwin
                          last edited by 13 Sept 2020, 05:33

                          @Brad_Olwin hi Brad. Great to get an answer. I’ve used the watch for 2years without this issue, it appeared after a software update q1 this year.

                          Yes I have hard reset the watch. If feelings are turned on it often works, with feelings of it freezes and I loose my workout. I have two big virtual competitions Coming up (Lidingöloppet and a marathon) and as of now it seemed that Im being forced to by a Garmin o Polar watch.

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                            bbx100 Bronze Member
                            last edited by 13 Sept 2020, 11:59

                            I really miss that baro trend indicator on my SSWHR baro which finally a few days ago returned on watch face in s9 baro. I had it on my old core and missed it on my spartan baro. So it needed two generation of watches from ambit over spartan to return on the watch face os S9. Maybe Suunto will return other features from ambit watches which are missing, in some version of Suunto 11 watch in the future…

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                              DRezvoff
                              last edited by 29 Dec 2020, 05:25

                              The clock began to hang 1-2 times a month after the completion of training… write - preservation, but passes 2, 3, 4 hours, notifications come, but the clock continues to try to keep training… helps only soft reset, after which the clock saves the number of calories spent and steps taken, but the workout is removed…
                              Is that a firmware problem?

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                                Mff73 @DRezvoff
                                last edited by 29 Dec 2020, 08:21

                                @DRezvoff said in Spartan update complains:

                                Is that a firmware problem?

                                Maybe, but maybe not. If a FW bug was i presume it should have already raised, but …

                                If it worked for you and begin to fail, it could just be something now stucked in your watch. Either first soft reset it and see, and if not successful, contemplate to hard reset after complete sync to make the FW fresh.

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                                  DRezvoff @Mff73
                                  last edited by 29 Dec 2020, 09:10

                                  @Mff73 if there are no other options. then yes. hard reset only
                                  and reconfigure hours, workouts, and more…: (

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                                    sartoric Moderator @DRezvoff
                                    last edited by 29 Dec 2020, 10:27

                                    @DRezvoff
                                    I would start with a soft reset first.
                                    I never had that kind of problem, maybe once in years.

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                                      DRezvoff @sartoric
                                      last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 10:34

                                      @sartoric well, I have to do a sotf reset all the time a month… :(((

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                                        Mff73 @DRezvoff
                                        last edited by 13 Jan 2021, 12:12

                                        @DRezvoff
                                        just to check : your issue is that your watch is blocked at the saving workout step ? Like never ending saving ?
                                        If so, do you have enabled the “feeling” option ? it was a workaround for such issues if i remember well.
                                        If already enabled, you still can try to connect it to SA right after soft reset and send logs to suunto (i guess).

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                                          DRezvoff @Mff73
                                          last edited by 14 Jan 2021, 03:10

                                          @Mff73 The feeling option is enabled.
                                          if the problem is known and it is clearly a clock software problem, why is there no bug fix update???

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