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    suzzlo Moderator
    last edited by 29 Oct 2019, 15:20

    Let’s see if Suunto has some November Santa gift (FW+SA) for Spartan users…

    🤞 🤞 🤞

    Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
    Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
    SA topics:

    • Guides - https://forum.suunto.com/tags/guides
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      mraka Bronze Member
      last edited by 29 Oct 2019, 16:29

      Thank Universe i bought Ambit3 instead SSU a month ago. Saved me this stress for less money, and A3 works like a charm.

      Vertical Solar Titanium
      Ambit3 Peak Black

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        borgelkranz Bronze Member
        last edited by 29 Oct 2019, 19:20

        Wishing on a star, too. Since day one of the Spartan release, by the way…

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          fejker Gold Members @borgelkranz
          last edited by 29 Oct 2019, 20:13

          @borgelkranz same here, got the Spartan for premium high price in August 2016.

          SHUT UP LEGS!
          -Jens Voigt

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            zhang965
            last edited by 29 Oct 2019, 20:15

            I still have my spartan ultra copper edition

            Winners Wear Winners

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              theorydude Bronze Member
              last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 02:38

              After reading through multiple forums, I have the impression that Suunto will not be supporting swim functions beyond basic lap swimming - is that a fair perception? It seems that the majority of all comments have to do with land-based activity updates, and hardly anyone makes any comments about swimming. The Ambit 3 was the last watch to have real swim functionality.

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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @suzzlo
                last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 02:47

                @suzzlo Primarily no FB features for Spartans as the majority need 24/7 HR and that is not possible with the Spartans.

                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                  Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
                  last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 02:48

                  @zhang965 That is a nice watch…my favorite color, I almost purchased one.

                  Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                    suzzlo Moderator @Brad_Olwin
                    last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 06:04

                    @Brad_Olwin ? I have 24/7 HR in my Spartan. Perhaps something related to RR?

                    BR

                    Suunto: Race, S9Peak, Spartan Sport Wrist
                    Garmin: FR745, Edge 530
                    SA topics:

                    • Guides - https://forum.suunto.com/tags/guides
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                      Frédéric Fiandino @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by Frédéric Fiandino 30 Oct 2019, 06:19

                      @Brad_Olwin said in Spartan update complains:

                      @suzzlo Primarily no FB features for Spartans as the majority need 24/7 HR and that is not possible with the Spartans.

                      hi, can you explain this ?
                      There are SSUs without OHRs and SSSs / SSTs with OHRs

                      Race
                      S9P with a firmware too
                      SSSWHR with a firmware inside
                      Ambit 3 Run

                      https://runalyze.com/athlete/Fred13270

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                        zhang965 @Frédéric Fiandino
                        last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 11:13

                        @Frédéric-Fiandino
                        why do you need any explain ? i don’t get it

                        Winners Wear Winners

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                          mraka Bronze Member @suzzlo
                          last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 12:54

                          @suzzlo said in Spartan update complains:

                          Let’s see if Suunto has some November Santa gift (FW+SA) for Spartan users…

                          🤞 🤞 🤞

                          Sad thing here is that all this is just another industry/marketing(let people talk and hope about our product) hype bullshit.
                          Like they could just announce that this long awaited update will be only for S3-9. And that SSU update will come latter, if it comes at all, (but it has to come if they want keep selling anything in the future).

                          I could easily fall for this, and “knowing” that update is coming in October go ahead and buy SSU for 450 euro. But something stank during my research, and i went for A3 Peak for 266 euro. And btw A3 was built in 2019. while SSU in 2016. or 2017.

                          Be honest, listen to your customers, give them legit announcements regarding new products/product updates. And i bet in return you get far more respect and loyalty from your customers/clients then this secretsy bullshit.

                          But they will not, because this is all just hyper-production, hyper-marketing, hyper-money making age we live in.

                          Vertical Solar Titanium
                          Ambit3 Peak Black

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                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @suzzlo
                            last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 12:57

                            @suzzlo Yep the WHR models do have 24/7 and OHR, it is a good question and could potentially be hardware dependent.

                            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Frédéric Fiandino
                              last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 12:57

                              @Frédéric-Fiandino My bad!

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator @mraka
                                last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 12:59

                                @mraka I stated this in a prior post but the Spartan development was much more significant than the S series, I bought an Ultra when it was released and it is nothing near the watch you have now. Similar complaints were made with the Ambit series upgrades, which I also owned. I think Suunto did an amazing job with Spartan development.

                                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                  Frédéric Fiandino @zhang965
                                  last edited by Frédéric Fiandino 30 Oct 2019, 13:04

                                  @zhang965 What do not you understand ?
                                  Perhaps Brad had technical information explaining the impossibility of implementing features FB on the all Spartan series

                                  Race
                                  S9P with a firmware too
                                  SSSWHR with a firmware inside
                                  Ambit 3 Run

                                  https://runalyze.com/athlete/Fred13270

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                                    mraka Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 13:12

                                    @Brad_Olwin said in Spartan update complains:

                                    @mraka I stated this in a prior post but the Spartan development was much more significant than the S series, I bought an Ultra when it was released and it is nothing near the watch you have now. Similar complaints were made with the Ambit series upgrades, which I also owned. I think Suunto did an amazing job with Spartan development.

                                    I didn’t say SSU is not a good watch, and that it didn’t get updates. Just people are waiting for more much needed (as i read) updates, and i am sure that those are coming, but tell people what is coming and what is not coming in next update. Make honest kind of connection with customers…

                                    Honestly, i prefer SSU over S. But it is just not there yet. Specially for that amount of money, that is my opinion.

                                    Vertical Solar Titanium
                                    Ambit3 Peak Black

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                                      Fenr1r @mraka
                                      last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 13:18

                                      @mraka Re: your earlier post

                                      No disagreement on your wider points of tech business but are you sure you have not fallen into the same trap you describe? Full A3PS integration into SA is a similar ambition/hint/aspiration (“hype bullshit”) rather than promise. Older models may get less and less connectable as the app develops and MC(web)'s continuation becomes a lost dream.

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                                        mraka Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                                        last edited by 30 Oct 2019, 13:31

                                        @Fenr1r said in Spartan update complains:

                                        @mraka Re: your earlier post

                                        No disagreement on your wider points of tech business but are you sure you have not fallen into the same trap you describe? Full A3PS integration into SA is a similar ambition/hint/aspiration (“hype bullshit”) rather than promise. Older models may get less and less connectable as the app develops and MC(web)'s continuation becomes a lost dream.

                                        Good point 🙂 Sure i did nice research before i bought my watch. There is no official statement, but from what i have found they will continue to make older models connectable in the future. (ops, just found official statement:
                                        https://forum.suunto.com/topic/2595/may-transition-update) - but its still shallow as hell 😅

                                        But you didnt understand me quite well i think. I didn’t say they give false advertisement for future updates, like they say something is coming and it doesn’t come ever. I sad that they should improve community communication in terms of giving people full announcements, not partial.

                                        Vertical Solar Titanium
                                        Ambit3 Peak Black

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                                          Fenr1r @mraka
                                          last edited by Fenr1r 30 Oct 2019, 13:48

                                          @mraka I got your point; I was just interested that you still showed optimism (faith, even: similar to @TELE-HO) in buying the A3PS without guarantee of continued connectivity (and warnings to the contrary). In practice Suunto, for all their lack of transparency on this, got a sale to a cynic.

                                          No criticism: I made (in retrospect) inadvisable assumptions on eventual feature development/recovery on the SSU.

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