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    Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

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      surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

      Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

      I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

      Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

      😳 😍 Can’t wait.
      Are the speed spikes/wobbles also fixed on higher speeds? It got way better in the current firmware, but there is room for improvement as it still fails sometimes

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      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
        Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos always good to hear that new firmware is being tested and its results are promising. Awesome!

        S9PP 2.40.38

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          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

          Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

          I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

          Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

          I can confirm way @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos as I have been Field-testing the new firmware. We both agree the GPS is much better.

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            azeanic
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            Can confirm the latest GPS firmware is a lot better than previous iterations. I’m using Stryd for distance, so not sure about actual distance accuracy. But tracks are a lot cleaner and closer to where I’m actually running.

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
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              @surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

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                Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos let’s hope that this version stays as a release canditate.

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                • surfboomerangS Online
                  surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I haven’t seen the speed wobbles in my running activities. Only on other profiles. I think it has something to do with a different log algorithm in the running profiles.

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
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                    @surfboomerang we don’t use anything different (algo) between types.

                    It can be though the way you use your arms

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                      freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                      like “shocks” from waves and fusedspeed becomes confusedspeed?

                      living sideways

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                        Shrek3k
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                        I am ready for an improved GPS (+ ×) software, too.
                        I a challenging environment (weekdays I am running in Berlin, approx 30% of the route(s) between rather solid and high houses) pure GPS and/or GPS+ Galileo/Glonass are quite often a real disaster and only offering a ‘wobbling’ track. And it does not even help to activate the exercise type and wait for a few minutes after the position has been found(yes, minutes, which currently is not too cozy 😉 )

                        using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
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                          Fenr1r @freeheeler
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                          @TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                          confusedspeed

                          Bravo. Better than any Friday deserves.

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                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
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                            @TELE-HO GPS no. Speed distance yes though 😄 Only if GPS is off / lost / bad.

                            There is also confusedTrack BTW 😄

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                              nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Interesting, I was convinced that there is different GPS algo for different sport modes… open water and cycling, for example…

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @nseslija
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                                @nseslija well I said something wrong.

                                For cycling/running no diff.

                                For open water only yes there is a special mode.

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                                  nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, tnx

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                                    zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                                    @surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

                                    Can you share this FW? I take all responsibility myself if anything goes wrong.

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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
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                                      @zvonejan if it was with only the GPS FW updated yes.

                                      Unfortunately it’s debug build and I can’t. Let aside that they check FW versions vs SN

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                                      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
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                                        What can I say - if conditions are right, Suunto 5 is spot on. Apparently two layers of longsleeve covering the watch don’t do much if GNSS signal is strong.

                                        But - according to Trimble GNSS Planning there were between 8 and 9 GPS satellites visible and between 6 and 7 Galileo satellites and DOP was very low.

                                        Today’s run with GPS + Galileo:

                                        Open area:
                                        Notice top right path being off - I actually run off the embankment and the track is very accurate and consistent.
                                        Screenshot_20200124-192318.png

                                        Mixed park / open / low buildings:
                                        Screenshot_20200124-192414.png

                                        An old park with plenty of tall trees:
                                        Screenshot_20200124-192339.png

                                        S9PP 2.40.38

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                                          Mff73 @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                          @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                                          S5 BARO should be a killer.

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                                            stromdiddily Gold Members @Mff73
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                                            @Mff73 was hoping that would be the s7. I think a Baro version would kill S9 imo

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