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    Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
      like “shocks” from waves and fusedspeed becomes confusedspeed?

      living sideways

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        Shrek3k
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        I am ready for an improved GPS (+ ×) software, too.
        I a challenging environment (weekdays I am running in Berlin, approx 30% of the route(s) between rather solid and high houses) pure GPS and/or GPS+ Galileo/Glonass are quite often a real disaster and only offering a ‘wobbling’ track. And it does not even help to activate the exercise type and wait for a few minutes after the position has been found(yes, minutes, which currently is not too cozy 😉 )

        using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
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          Fenr1r @freeheeler
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          @TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

          confusedspeed

          Bravo. Better than any Friday deserves.

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
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            @TELE-HO GPS no. Speed distance yes though 😄 Only if GPS is off / lost / bad.

            There is also confusedTrack BTW 😄

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              nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Interesting, I was convinced that there is different GPS algo for different sport modes… open water and cycling, for example…

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              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @nseslija
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                @nseslija well I said something wrong.

                For cycling/running no diff.

                For open water only yes there is a special mode.

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                  nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, tnx

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                    zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                    @surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

                    Can you share this FW? I take all responsibility myself if anything goes wrong.

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
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                      @zvonejan if it was with only the GPS FW updated yes.

                      Unfortunately it’s debug build and I can’t. Let aside that they check FW versions vs SN

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                        Łukasz Szmigiel
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                        What can I say - if conditions are right, Suunto 5 is spot on. Apparently two layers of longsleeve covering the watch don’t do much if GNSS signal is strong.

                        But - according to Trimble GNSS Planning there were between 8 and 9 GPS satellites visible and between 6 and 7 Galileo satellites and DOP was very low.

                        Today’s run with GPS + Galileo:

                        Open area:
                        Notice top right path being off - I actually run off the embankment and the track is very accurate and consistent.
                        Screenshot_20200124-192318.png

                        Mixed park / open / low buildings:
                        Screenshot_20200124-192414.png

                        An old park with plenty of tall trees:
                        Screenshot_20200124-192339.png

                        S9PP 2.40.38

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                          Mff73 @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                          @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                          S5 BARO should be a killer.

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                            @Mff73 was hoping that would be the s7. I think a Baro version would kill S9 imo

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                              nseslija Bronze Member @stromdiddily
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                              @stromdiddily S9B with external antenna… my dream watch…

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                                Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                I did some scouting on Beidou availability and it’s pretty impressive - while there are around 5 - 9 GPS, Galileo and GLONASS satellites above Wrocław at any given time, there are between 10 and 14 Beidou sats at the same moment.

                                I believe that Beidou support might solve some GNSS problems for people doing workouts in the mountains or dense urban areas.

                                S9PP 2.40.38

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel I think I agree.

                                  I have been testing now 2 weeks the new FW , I managed to get bad offsets etc from all systems used except GPS-BEIDOU.

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                                    zvonejan Bronze Member
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                                    Honestly, i’m quite pleased with the accuracy lately. These are the last 4 training sessions in the forest and the maximum deviations between tracsk is 15 meters. I use a combination of Gps Galileo,. Only gps give worse results. Gps + Glonas results are really bad - unacceptable to me
                                    forest1.jpg

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                                      zvonejan Bronze Member
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                                      And last 3 street runs, clear sky. Almost no deviations. I hope, that stays in new FW 🙂
                                      street.jpg

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
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                                        @zvonejan I like it that you look at the scale.

                                        I have seen people posting:

                                        • What a great track -> Line is super thick (polar/Strava) and scale is like 1KM 😄
                                        • What a bad traack -> Line is super thin (ok) and scale is like 2m

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                                          zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                          Correct 👍 , when i compare tracks, I always zoom to detail and than look at the scale in corner. These are short daily runs during week, perfect for accuracy comparision.

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                                            Shrek3k
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                                            Just my 2cents with three tracks (short loop, city of Berlin; GPS+Galileo (everything else is worse))

                                            not good, just the usual standard

                                            Screenshot_20200126-151102_Suunto.jpg

                                            not that bad

                                            Screenshot_20200126-151135_Suunto.jpg

                                            rather good one

                                            Screenshot_20200126-151242_Suunto.jpg

                                            Newest official GPS software; ‘soaking’ - after reception has been confirmed - for a few minutes each time before starting

                                            The loop is approx 2,7 km, and I am always moving along the street / on the sidewalk.

                                            Additionally a longer one (22 km, city of Berlin). All in all ok, see the excerpt from the route showing the ‘usual’ short-run-area … not that nice, especially as it decreases at the end of a longer run. Of course: rather challenging area.

                                            Screenshot_20200126-152009_Suunto.jpg

                                            Screenshot_20200126-152034_Suunto.jpg

                                            using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                                            OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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