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    Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

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      nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Interesting, I was convinced that there is different GPS algo for different sport modes… open water and cycling, for example…

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @nseslija
        last edited by

        @nseslija well I said something wrong.

        For cycling/running no diff.

        For open water only yes there is a special mode.

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          nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, tnx

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            zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by zvonejan

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

            @surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

            Can you share this FW? I take all responsibility myself if anything goes wrong.

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
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              @zvonejan if it was with only the GPS FW updated yes.

              Unfortunately it’s debug build and I can’t. Let aside that they check FW versions vs SN

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              • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                Łukasz Szmigiel
                last edited by Łukasz Szmigiel

                What can I say - if conditions are right, Suunto 5 is spot on. Apparently two layers of longsleeve covering the watch don’t do much if GNSS signal is strong.

                But - according to Trimble GNSS Planning there were between 8 and 9 GPS satellites visible and between 6 and 7 Galileo satellites and DOP was very low.

                Today’s run with GPS + Galileo:

                Open area:
                Notice top right path being off - I actually run off the embankment and the track is very accurate and consistent.
                Screenshot_20200124-192318.png

                Mixed park / open / low buildings:
                Screenshot_20200124-192414.png

                An old park with plenty of tall trees:
                Screenshot_20200124-192339.png

                S9PP 2.40.38

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                  Mff73 @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                  @Łukasz-Szmigiel
                  S5 BARO should be a killer.

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                    stromdiddily Gold Members @Mff73
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                    @Mff73 was hoping that would be the s7. I think a Baro version would kill S9 imo

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                      nseslija Bronze Member @stromdiddily
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                      @stromdiddily S9B with external antenna… my dream watch…

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                      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                        Łukasz Szmigiel
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                        I did some scouting on Beidou availability and it’s pretty impressive - while there are around 5 - 9 GPS, Galileo and GLONASS satellites above Wrocław at any given time, there are between 10 and 14 Beidou sats at the same moment.

                        I believe that Beidou support might solve some GNSS problems for people doing workouts in the mountains or dense urban areas.

                        S9PP 2.40.38

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                          @Łukasz-Szmigiel I think I agree.

                          I have been testing now 2 weeks the new FW , I managed to get bad offsets etc from all systems used except GPS-BEIDOU.

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                            zvonejan Bronze Member
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                            Honestly, i’m quite pleased with the accuracy lately. These are the last 4 training sessions in the forest and the maximum deviations between tracsk is 15 meters. I use a combination of Gps Galileo,. Only gps give worse results. Gps + Glonas results are really bad - unacceptable to me
                            forest1.jpg

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                              zvonejan Bronze Member
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                              And last 3 street runs, clear sky. Almost no deviations. I hope, that stays in new FW 🙂
                              street.jpg

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @zvonejan
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                                @zvonejan I like it that you look at the scale.

                                I have seen people posting:

                                • What a great track -> Line is super thick (polar/Strava) and scale is like 1KM 😄
                                • What a bad traack -> Line is super thin (ok) and scale is like 2m

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                                  zvonejan Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                  Correct 👍 , when i compare tracks, I always zoom to detail and than look at the scale in corner. These are short daily runs during week, perfect for accuracy comparision.

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                                    Shrek3k
                                    last edited by Shrek3k

                                    Just my 2cents with three tracks (short loop, city of Berlin; GPS+Galileo (everything else is worse))

                                    not good, just the usual standard

                                    Screenshot_20200126-151102_Suunto.jpg

                                    not that bad

                                    Screenshot_20200126-151135_Suunto.jpg

                                    rather good one

                                    Screenshot_20200126-151242_Suunto.jpg

                                    Newest official GPS software; ‘soaking’ - after reception has been confirmed - for a few minutes each time before starting

                                    The loop is approx 2,7 km, and I am always moving along the street / on the sidewalk.

                                    Additionally a longer one (22 km, city of Berlin). All in all ok, see the excerpt from the route showing the ‘usual’ short-run-area … not that nice, especially as it decreases at the end of a longer run. Of course: rather challenging area.

                                    Screenshot_20200126-152009_Suunto.jpg

                                    Screenshot_20200126-152034_Suunto.jpg

                                    using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                                      To mention about Gallileo and my experience.

                                      The earlier or around noon Galileo at my area has given the best tracks ever:

                                      Examples

                                      https://photos.app.goo.gl/BVSy8pkRZraKAyah8

                                      It includes also todays offset

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                                        isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                        @Łukasz-Szmigiel beidou has 47 satellites in orbit, if I’m not wrong, many more than the other constellations.

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                                          cosme.costa @Shrek3k
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                                          @Shrek3k Well, I do not consider these tracks bad at all, in my opinion are quite good. Maybe my demands on accuracy are low 😕 . I need to raise the bar here 😅

                                          I am pleased with the level of accuracy of the S9B, it still needs improvement but I am happy that Suunto is working on it and it and it seems that we will get a really good level.

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                                          • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                            Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
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                                            @isazi yeah I wasn’t aware of that, it’s pretty impressive. I wonder what will yield better accuracy in practice - 5 Galileo sats or 10 Beidou sats.

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